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2014/01/07 14:44:12
fooman
I honestly was happy to read this.
I use 6.3.1 with X3c 32-bit in Windsor 7 64-bit and receive no issues as of now (fingers crossed hard).
I would like to use X3c 64bit, but I do NOT want to update my software because things work right now and I continue to see UAD issue threads on here.
 
I think Cakewalk should employ CakeAlexS haha.  Dude, or dudette, has been all over the baords trying to hunt and solve issues like a bandit.  Awesome!  However, without owning any UAD hardware and using it very regularly, as I and many other do, please keep in mind we are all mostly thousands of dollars invested into this system of plugins and are kinda peeved about issues that hang around for months.
 
If you think about it, we have all invested more into UAD than Cakewalk because their hardware and (mostly) all of their most-used plugins are pricey relative to the competition.  So when things continue to be buggy, this board is our only outlet.

Finally, I will say that UA is awesome for support.  If you have an issue, call em.  Only reason I haven't called to ask is because I live in Canada and it costs to much to ask about 'potential' issues haha
2014/01/07 14:45:18
ampfixer
Alex, you have to remember that it's not your responsibility to monitor all the posts or take charge of bug reports. You don't have UAD plugs, then you shouldn't be posting in the discussion whatever your reason. You really want to lighten up a bit, ok?
2014/01/07 14:47:39
brian brock
Please don't feel it necessary to follow UAD-related issues if they are not affecting you.  I for one am content with where things are with respect to workarounds, and I'm hopeful that fixes will come soon from both companies.
 
Since you asked, here is Noel Borthwick's recent comment about some UAD issues:
http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/2963116
"Danny is right. Its possible that this issue is also a side effect of the plugin chaining API. All versions of SONAR since 8.5 use this custom UA API that we implemented for them years ago. 
 
I was in touch with UA fairly recently about this and their response was that this API is no longer actively supported by them at the host level and only used by them internally now. I was also told that they would add a remedy from their end. From our side I have now removed custom UA chaining support from SONAR for the next X3 update so hopefully this shouldn't be an issue going forward.
BTW this isn't really specific to X3 technically - the only reason that you see a difference in behavior is because the UAD driver seems to be testing for a specific SONAR version and masking the error messages - which is why the some UAD warning messages started popping up in X3."
2014/01/07 14:51:34
Splat
ampfixer
Alex, you have to remember that it's not your responsibility to monitor all the posts or take charge of bug reports.

 
I agree.
 
ampfixer
You don't have UAD plugs, then you shouldn't be posting in the discussion whatever your reason.



May I refer you to #8 and #9 which proves that I don't have to own UAD gear in order to contribute. Please check the other threads, don't just take one persons word for it. You would think a person who has time to count the number of posts would also have enough time to check his facts.
 
ampfixer
 You really want to lighten up a bit, ok?

 

2014/01/07 14:52:10
fooman
CakeAlexS
Nothing personal either Brian, I just get frustrated because the situation gets really confusing. This thread is an example. One person has just said I was useless, and another helpful. And now in order to back my statements up I have to go over to another thread or maybe the other to get my facts straight....  And Cake's statement is on one of the threads... can't remember which.... arghh! :)

I feel sorry that the UAD situation is not optimal at present, but I really think until UAD pulls finger or Cake releases X3E then it's just a waiting game (or roll back the drivers). I can't see the situations being any clearer until either or both these scenarios take place.

Cheers..

I'd also like to point out that for UAD, rolling back the drivers often requires a new $300+ plugin you just bought sitting collecting virtual dust.  So I can see this being a real issue for a LOT of UAD owners.  This is not a 'work-around'.  This is a waste of money.
 
They just handed out $50 vouchers.  I can't buy anything I want to because my drivers are so outdated.  But... they work for me at the moment so I'll continue on with what I got.
2014/01/07 14:54:04
Splat
I appreciate the situation is frustrating...
2014/01/07 15:03:58
jb101
3 out of 8 (37.5%).
2014/01/07 15:05:00
markyzno
ampfixer
Alex, you have to remember that it's not your responsibility to monitor all the posts or take charge of bug reports. You don't have UAD plugs, then you shouldn't be posting in the discussion whatever your reason. You really want to lighten up a bit, ok?




+1 I would second this.

Alex, you are doing a sterling job in your efforts on the forum and as a community i'm sure I can speak for nearly all that its much appreciated, but having said that, you arent the mod of the board... Maybe a touch of restraint on some of the threads that dont concern you personally and with experience so you can let the threads take their natural progression?

Just a jolly heads up to you and no offence intended. 
2014/01/07 15:10:11
Splat
#14
2014/01/07 15:22:04
SuperG
Well, Alex does go overboard some times....
 
OTOH, gratuitous whining is even worse.
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