Sanderxpander
I haven't actually tried, but wouldn't it make sense to use the "flatten comp" option to consolidate the idea before recording a new one? Alternatively, how about using track folders for different ideas played by the same synth?

 
I'm sorry but what does this "flatten comp" do? Also, track folders don't really help because even if you collapse the track(s) in the folder, the folder itself uses valuable space on your screen (especially when you create several folders for ideas on different instruments -- and I use a laptop with no external monitor). The good thing about lanes is that you can show/hide them easily, while you have to use the Track Manager, or screensets, to show a particular folder.   

Given that with audio, everything works really well its pretty obvious to me that since midi behaves differently (and incorrectly/badly) that midi take lane functionality is not implemented correctly.
 
its clearly CWBRN time and this thread reminds me that i have failed to report my share of midi take lane issues.
 
 
 
 

#39 logged: CWBRN-22107

#39? isn't it #22107? are you coompiling something useful?

I still track in X1, and mix in X3, because working with track layers, which I've grown accustomed to for years and am very quick with, is just much easier for me.  My clients are always impressed with the ease at which I can record them.  I tried my hand with take lanes but they make the job tougher IME.  So X1 is my tracking software for the time being.  I completely skipped X2 because editing takes was useless.  I bought it, but it collected virtual dust.
 
I would really like to see a webinar or a thorough video of cakewalk tracking a live drummer and editing his/her takes.  I can't see or understand how take lanes makes this process easier.  Drummers are not perfect and often slip-editing is needed and a lot of moving and nudging is required.  Take lanes makes this much harder in my experience.  The main issue is that the crossfade-functionality is very hit-or-miss and simply slows me way down.

Lets remember that even layers went through a number of fixes and changes and was still in need of more... so I expect nothing less from Lanes other than we went three steps back to implement them and are now playing catch up and overtake (if it ever gets there for me)...
 
I've got a reasonable handle on the speed comping, but it still (at this point in time) is creating more issues for me than it is worth using much of the time...
 
I understand the need to know the new expected work methodology, but it still has to be able to accomplish the work and it doesn't always or sometimes at best gets the job done (for the result desired) with a lot of work around and extra labor to get that final result...
 
Layers had their problem, and learning Lanes makes them easier to live with, but still at the cost of much extra work. We are not all busy in the kind of work situations where such a feature set makes sense to use...
 
So while I hope to see pleasant improvement, this is a big reason I've been so disenchanted with issues such as these.... I was far closer to being satisfied before than I am now and perhaps foolishly continue to hang on hoping the next few updates will somehow fix things before I'm incapable of using it anyway...
 
I know their' (Bakers) hearts and minds are in the right place and the decisions are hard to make in the best of scenarios... But this one really threw the wrench at me while fixing some of the other issues that were important as well...
 
So I reluctantly have been keeping myself more toned down about these issues and hoping for the best....
 
Maybe this will get better as the rest of my life continues to fall apart....
 
Keni
 

Keni
 
Maybe this will get better as the rest of my life continues to fall apart....
 

I for one sincerely appreciate your presence here and hope you find a way to keep your pieces together.  I also anxiously await the day you're happy with lanes.
 
 
 

Just had a session last night that highlighted one of the common issues with takes.  Had background vocalists come punch in discrete phrases in 10 different sections of the song.  Did around 5 takes of each to get phrasing right etc. before moving on to the next phrase.  So I now have 50 take lanes to work with for what is effectively 5 actual takes broken into 10 sections.  I would love the ability to either 1) consolidate takes so that non-overlapping sections are put onto the same lane, or 2) the ability to tell Sonar what take number I want to start with so I can always start at take 1 and it adds subsequent takes to #2, #3 etc.  As it currently behaves, I must manually select each section and drag clips around so I end up with a manageable number of takes to work with.  
 
Another issue I posted elsewhere is the need to be able to export the audio from takes.  I collaborate with other engineers using other DAWs.  I often want to send them wave files from three of the best takes of different tracks for them to work with.  The only way to export the audio is to manually select/solo take 1, export the audio from the track, then go back and select/solo take 2 and repeat.  This is very time consuming and prone to user error when doing this dozens of times per song for 15 songs.  "Export audio" allows to export by full mix, bus, or track.  CW needs to add "take lanes" to the list of options.
 
Lot's of good ideas in this thread.  I hope we all submit feature requests so that these issues get resolved.  Takes are very close to being a great tool, but there are enough quirks and bugs that I still find them to be a real hassle much of the time.
 
I wonder if CW would consider hosting a working session with folks like ourselves to study work flow in a real world setting and see the issues first hand, and to help brainstorm ideal behaviors.  I for one would gladly fly to Boston some weekend to take part.
 
 

neirbod
 I wonder if CW would consider hosting a working session with folks like ourselves to study work flow in a real world setting and see the issues first hand, and to help brainstorm ideal behaviors.  I for one would gladly fly to Boston some weekend to take part.
 

 
You'd hope they'd already done this...

I'd settle for a webcast tracking a group of live musicians!  I want to see how Cakewalk uses Take Lanes with multi-miced instruments that are not 100% to the grid.