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  • I still don't like Take Lanes... (p.6)
2013/12/09 18:24:43
Saxon1066
Thanks to Jlien for cataloging these bugs in lanes.  I have seen most of these--and others.  Lanes are extremely buggy at this point.  Recording multiple takes and comping is a very basic function in recording.  Fixing the lanes should get top priority.
2013/12/09 18:32:33
Splat
Saxon1066
Thanks to Jlien for cataloging these bugs in lanes.  I have seen most of these--and others.  Lanes are extremely buggy at this point.  Recording multiple takes and comping is a very basic function in recording.  Fixing the lanes should get top priority.


+1 (hope to see this in X3D or X3E).
2013/12/09 19:28:14
Keni
Paul P
Keni Maybe this will get better as the rest of my life continues to fall apart.... 


I for one sincerely appreciate your presence here and hope you find a way to keep your pieces together.  I also anxiously await the day you're happy with lanes.   


Thanks Paul...

I hope that happens someday as they seem reluctant to offer both lanes and layers... Personally, I'd be very happy to have layers with all it's bugs for these new tools are interesting ideas and I imagine useful to some users, but certainly not for my needs...

Keni
2013/12/09 20:16:54
Splat
> Maybe this will get better as the rest of my life continues to fall apart.... 
 
That is a genius quote!! I may have to nick it.
2013/12/10 00:09:14
brian brock
in practice, comping mode seems much too fiddly for any but the very few cases for which it was conceived.  Having my recordings split up before I've even looked at them or taken any action is completely unwelcome.
2013/12/10 05:08:37
Saxon1066
CakeAlexS
So here is my test case, please tell me where am I going wrong? - Thanks!
 
EXPECTED
 
You can hear a take lane as you unmute it.
 
ACTUAL

Some take lanes you won't hear anything in some sections if you press the mute button to unmute. On further inspection you will observe that the clips that you can't hear have actually been overwritten with other clips and the region muted. Why?
 
ALSO
I've followed the same procedure with "store take lanes as separate tracks" setting. This displays all take lanes as separate without clips being recorded on top of each other, however some clips will not be heard when following the same process above (i.e. unmuting by clicking the mute button).



This is why I find take lanes completely unusable.  They are so buggy, it drives me insane.  Also, if I try to copy/paste a clip from a different track into a new take lane in another track, the clip appears in a random lane and overwrites the clip that was already there.  Nuts!  For now, I have to track in X1, do my comping there, and use X3 to mix.  (I do like the ProChannel improvements.)  It's not just that take lanes are very cumbersome to use with many takes.  The lanes just don't work right.  If Cake never fixes these buggy lanes, I will stay with X1 forever or jump ship.  Really, take lanes have been a revolting development for me.
2013/12/10 08:26:40
Splat
William as a workaround in X3 May I suggest using track templates for speedy overdubs? You can group the tracks in folders and do the editing within it.
2013/12/10 10:23:13
Keni
brian brock
in practice, comping mode seems much too fiddly for any but the very few cases for which it was conceived.  Having my recordings split up before I've even looked at them or taken any action is completely unwelcome.


CakeAlexS
> Maybe this will get better as the rest of my life continues to fall apart.... 
 
That is a genius quote!! I may have to nick it.





Thanks CakeAlexS
 
I hope you get good use for it.... But also hoping your life doesn't fall apart as mine is....!
 
Keni
 
2013/12/10 10:26:41
Keni
brian brock
in practice, comping mode seems much too fiddly for any but the very few cases for which it was conceived.  Having my recordings split up before I've even looked at them or taken any action is completely unwelcome.




Hi Brian...
 
Yes, I couldn't agree more... In my opinion (?), this should have been ADDED instead of replacing Layers... Layers is/was a perfect method for many people, but I'm hoping the Bakers find some ingenious way to make Lanes more practical and useful to those of us suffering the loss.... Regardless of bugs, Lanes just doesn't work as well for me as Layers did!
 
I guess they needed some way to derail a lot of other complaints, so they surprised us with this loss/exchange to keep us focused??? ;-)
 
Keni
 
2013/12/10 10:33:50
fooman
I'd really like layers back.  +1000000.
I was super efficient with them.  Layers has set me back a lot and forced me to use X2 as a virtual dust-collector and X3 as a mixing-only app.  X1 is the way to go for me.  Interesting to see others as well.
 
I hope Cake chimes in here.  Do a video of comping drums, LIVE drums, for drum months.
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