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  • Freezing / unfreezing resets guitar rig, TH2- sometimes can't unfreeze (p.2)
2013/12/31 11:31:07
Beepster
Oh and when I archive something what I do is I'll clone the track after selecting all the takes/audio segments I want to use (basic editing/comping) then in the clone I'll delete are the unused takes, do whatever final edits (cropping, fades, that type of stuff) I want so it all sounds good and I'll bounce to clips to get one long clip/take. The I delete all the fragmented/empty lanes so I can simply work with the parent track or a single lane. I don't bounce the effects or anything when I do that so I can still screw around with parameters and such. It's basically just an editing clean up.
 
Then the original track gets archived just in case I want to try out the other stuff I laid down (particularly solos but sometimes certain rhythm performances, even if technically identical, sometimes sound better in a mix). I spend a loooong time making decisions on my final takes though so I've never actually gone back to my archived tracks except out of curiosity. However I like the idea of having all that there so maybe in 5, 10, 20 years I can do remixes based on the original recordings. Kind of like going into an old studio and finding a box of tape slices that hit the floor and adding new, but not new, flavor to an old fave.
 
Yes... this is the type of thing I think about. I'll definitely need to start investing in hard drives if I intend to keep this philosophy alive though. lol
 
2013/12/31 11:35:59
Beepster
TraceyStudios
that is cool. thanks for explaining. I need to explore x3 more. I have just been in production mode recently.




Archive has been around as long as I've been using Sonar (X1). And you are very welcome. Personally for the type of music (metal/rock/lots of takes) we do I think it's a very important feature. I don't want to delete endless hours of solos or experimentation but I also don't want look at them as I work on the mix, have them bogging down my system or any of the other issues bulky tracks like obsessive compulsive lead session can cause.
2013/12/31 16:13:11
lawajava
Beepster

Thanks for the idea about saving the settings for GR5 before freezing, and then reloading them after unfreezing.

I've been saving my GR5 settings as a practice, with each one saved in its own GR5 folder/attribute for the song name and particular track/preset identifier. What I haven't been doing is following that practice all the time and also not doing a latest save before freezing. So it's an easy thing to do and seems clear it would resolve those moments of confusion when I've unfrozen and the guitar track sounds not quite like I remembered. I hadn't realized about the free/unfreeze anomaly.

I'll do the same for TH2 and PodFarm as well. Easy to do and seems like a great way to insure it's all there.
2013/12/31 16:38:14
Beepster
lawajava
Beepster

Thanks for the idea about saving the settings for GR5 before freezing, and then reloading them after unfreezing.

I've been saving my GR5 settings as a practice, with each one saved in its own GR5 folder/attribute for the song name and particular track/preset identifier. What I haven't been doing is following that practice all the time and also not doing a latest save before freezing. So it's an easy thing to do and seems clear it would resolve those moments of confusion when I've unfrozen and the guitar track sounds not quite like I remembered. I hadn't realized about the free/unfreeze anomaly.

I'll do the same for TH2 and PodFarm as well. Easy to do and seems like a great way to insure it's all there.



No problem (but as I said that info came from Mark). Glad to be able to repay you for the insight on daisy chaining my Layla to my Scarlett via... even though I have tried it out yet. Cheers.
2013/12/31 16:39:39
mettelus
It is very good practice to save VST presets "just in case," and be sure to include the folders you save them to in your backups as well. Markyzno posted that a few times about unfreezing GR5, and I am thankful he did as well.
2013/12/31 18:19:46
TraceyStudios
any of you have any idea why a track cant be "unfroze" ?  I have a project where a track with GR5 and It will not thaw,  All of the other tracks thawed, this one will not, I am at a loss.
 
2014/01/02 05:51:43
markyzno
Its a known issue and Beep has said what I have found out before.

Hopefully the Bakers will work with NI on this as I'm sure Noel or somebody from Cake has said before.

Follow Beeps advice tho and you should be OK.
 
 
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