caminitic
Thanks for the reply.  I wish the procedure was "less clunky" than that, as it would be nice to loosen or tighten as needed after hearing the pitch correction in context of the song.  I'll play around with it though...

Another thing that would improve Melodyne: it would be nice to have it show in the track view the way Audio Snap does so notes on other tracks could either be used as a timing guide or could be timed using Melodyne's view as a guide. As it is, timing matches to other tracks need to be done with Audio Snap... unless I'm missing something.

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caminitic
Thanks for the reply.  I wish the procedure was "less clunky" than that, as it would be nice to loosen or tighten as needed after hearing the pitch correction in context of the song.  I'll play around with it though...

Another thing that would improve Melodyne: it would be nice to have it show in the track view the way Audio Snap does so notes on other tracks could either be used as a timing guide or could be timed using Melodyne's view as a guide. As it is, timing matches to other tracks need to be done with Audio Snap... unless I'm missing something.

Interesting idea but I think that level of integration would require celemony  make custom versions of it's software for each DAW.  The ARA standard enables them to integrate Melodyne into multiple software without making a custom version for each.  Audio snap is able to work in that manner because it is tied to Sonar on a much deeper level than Melodyne.

Visual timing matches are easier with AudioSnap, yes. But you can still match timing by ear with Melodyne and it sounds a ton better than AudioSnap except perhaps for cleanly sliced drums. Melodyne does have a timing grid by the way, so while it's not easy to line them up, you can still look at where your reference timing is between beats or subdivisions and then drag Melodyne blobs to the same place.

caminitic.
No I mean AFTER the vocalist has done his thing, after I've comped it......

I wish you'd said that bit before - in that case melodyne is pretty straightforward, though the included version is a bit basic.

I would suggest giving Melodyne a go and familiarize yourself with the basic functionality. For tightening vocals it can do this in just a few clicks, and it can do surgical work as well pretty easily. Celemony's web site has a nice group of videos for doing different tasks that help a lot as well.

Sanderxpander
Visual timing matches are easier with AudioSnap, yes. But you can still match timing by ear with Melodyne and it sounds a ton better than AudioSnap except perhaps for cleanly sliced drums. Melodyne does have a timing grid by the way, so while it's not easy to line them up, you can still look at where your reference timing is between beats or subdivisions and then drag Melodyne blobs to the same place.

Yes, I've tried it that way; it's just far more time-consuming.

melodyne IS more time consuming but it is the price you pay for the results.  Honestly, any pitch correction software will only give so-so results in the out the box mode.  The pitch correction in Nectar is pretty good, but to unleash the trfue power one has to go into the more advanced mode which looks very similar to melodyne.  even in melodyne you will get much better results if you separate vowels from consonants.

These replies seem to reinforce why I'm a huge fan of AT...at least for the purposes of what I'm using it for.  When it's in the EFX bin of a post-comp, ready for mixing lead vocal, I can put it on "auto" mode with slight tuning and slow speed and literally watch the red light flat/sharp "flutter" in the pitch errors IN REAL TIME as the track is playing...and make adjustments as needed.  Basically, I'm listening for transparency with no sour notes or obvious pitch corrections.  (When that's the case, I can do surgery on the offending clip...).
 
It sounds to me that with the 20,000 things that Melodyne can do better, for this purpose...AT still wins.  I'm still eager to learn more about Melodyne and wish my old AT DX plugin ran in my 64-bit X3 setup...  =(

It sounds to me that with the 20,000 things that Melodyne can do better, for this purpose...AT still wins..
 
Having seen both in action let's agree to disagree, once you hear the results and understand the working methodology is so much more than pitch correction, I suspect you will soon change your mind. Like everything the paperwork doesn't do it justice.

I have used both and it's not even close.  If you have addictive Keys, they included nectar elements which has a decent pitch correction