• SONAR
  • really is x3d that bad (p.3)
2013/12/22 10:27:10
Paul P
 
I think the list is great and thank Alex for investing his time and energy in putting it together.
 
Now when something strange happens we can quickly consult the list to see if it's a known problem, and if it is, save hours and hours trying to figure out what's going wrong.  In the other direction, we may be encouraged to look at our technique or sytem setup if we don't find anything on the list.
 
It's also a nice way to encourage the deployment of an X3e...
 
 
 
 
 
2013/12/22 11:08:24
Sylvan
Good point. Alex is being proactive, contributing to solutions rather than adding to problems. He is not a SONAR apologist (I might be...ha ha ha) but he is a SONAR enthusiast and seems to genuinely want to get to the point and shed light on any REAL problems. Thank you Alex.
2013/12/22 11:14:45
Anderton
Agreed about Alex. He is one of the people I refer to as "partnering" with Cakewalk in the process of creating software. It's also reassuring that the majority of bugs he's finding aren't really all that signuficant.
2013/12/22 11:57:38
SilkTone
Does CW have a beta program? I've been out of the loop for a few years so don't know the current status on that. It seems having a beta program would help in catching some of these "how did they miss that" kind of bugs.
 
As far as X3d, my limited experience tells me that it is a giant improvement over X1 which is where I got off the bus. My arch enemy bugs, the MIDI crosstalk and crashing with more than one VSTi sending MIDI events have finally been fixed (almost 5 years since originally reported), so now I can do things the way I need to. There are obviously still more bugs and I'm sure many people have their own set of pet bugs, some that even makes Sonar unusable for them, but for me at least I can now enjoy using it.
 
Anyway, I offered numerous times to beta test, but I never got any response back. And it is not to get free stuff or anything, I'll gladly pay for Sonar if the most annoying bugs can be sorted out.
 
I do feel it is a little bit unfair to have bugs sit in each version that makes an advertised feature unusable, only to have to pay for the next upgrade to get that feature fixed. It is like buying a 2013 model car and finding out the radio doesn't work. But don't worry, they fixed the radio in the 2014 model so just go ahead and buy that one. I think CW should keep fixing bugs in older versions (say one version back) to be fair to those that paid for that previous version but the advertised features never worked properly. However I understand that at the end of the day it will mean less revenue since people will be less likely to upgrade right away.
2013/12/22 12:20:33
Splat
Thanks for the comments :)


Yes only one bug that really concerns me right now, but there are also other issues which are of not much concern to me but would be to others. It's early days, I don't pass full judgement on this patch till the end of the year. There is still a bug backlog to be cleared out (as it were), and it seems as if Cake is showing the willingness to sort this all out, and I apperciate it will take time. I hope there will be at least a big patch every three months until X4 comes out or until these issues hit close to zero. A feature freeze would help here. I stress this is a hope not an expectation.
 
Well I guess I'm hoping there will be an X3E in the next few months.... Otherwise does Sonar X3D work? H*ll yes. Is Sonar X3D too buggy? H*ll no, best release yet.... and I hope it will get better and better.
 
@Steven please check #8. Thanks...
2013/12/22 12:34:24
rsinger
CakeAlexS
It's a list.... so far I haven't seen it become sentinel. Maybe it says "Vote Reagan" or something... who knows.... it's just a a list... Bill Hicks are you there??? What do you say....
 
He says it's just a list...



I like the list. Based on problems people were reporting on the c patch I skipped it since b was working fine for what I was doing. I didn't see any show stoppers on the d list so I've gone ahead and applied d.   
2013/12/22 12:42:11
SilkTone
CakeAlexS
@Steven please check #8. Thanks...



Aha, somehow I missed that. I will check it out for sure.
2013/12/22 13:02:35
mettelus
Anderton
It takes just as much effort to learn a DAW as it does any musical instrument...


Words of wisdom... I feel at times that some either expect a giant "make song for me now!" button, or find a single bug they will champion unto death blindly... neither perspective is spending time learning the DAW or making music.
 
X3d is quite the Christmas present actually!
 
Merry Christmas everyone!
2013/12/22 13:07:57
Splat
One thing I've come to realise, these patches really need a rollback facility. Of course we should all be backing up as well before we install.
2013/12/22 15:00:41
Peter Morrison
This not a thread, It's a noose
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