• SONAR
  • really is x3d that bad (p.6)
2013/12/23 01:56:58
Splat
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2013/12/23 02:03:51
bobguitkillerleft
CakeAlexS
Brilliant. May I ask you to put this in a thread? When somebody next asks the question we can just point to it.... Thanks....

Anderton
CakeAlexS
So hang on, to roll back do you run the patch again?
Otherwise my confusion (at least) is that it isn't in add/remove programs.



  1. Navigate through the C: drive maze and locate SONARPDR.EXE in the Sonar X3 Producer folder.
  2. Right-click on it and select Properties.
  3. Click on the Previous Versions tab.
  4. Windows will likely find a previous version.
  5. Right-click on it and select Properties.
  6. Click the Details tab, and under Product Version, you should see X3c.
  7. If selecting the file enables the Restore button, click on it and X3c will return. If not, or the file isn't local, click OK, click Open, click Run, and cross your fingers.
 
However - bear in mind that this may affect other installations related to Sonar, so use it at your own risk. It did seem to work as advertised when I tried it, although after testing I then went back to X3c because I didn't think that unchecking the 64-bit audio engine would mean the end of my ability to create music.




Very very usefull info. Mr. Anderton,we'll follow to the letter.
Thanks!
Bob 
 
2013/12/23 02:17:36
bobguitkillerleft
"There are no previous versions available"     Oh dear,time to play guitar,computers are giving me the .....
Bob
 
2013/12/23 02:35:45
rebel007
I'm Australian, so my 20 cents is probably only worth about 17 U.S. but for what it's worth I think Sonar X3 is probably the best Windows DAW at the present time. I use my computer for many things other than making music, although about 75% of my hard drives are related to music, and I can tell you, that at times I have a hard time with Sonar. All in all though, X3 seems about the most stable of all the releases so far and I've been a cakewalk user since Pro Audio 9. I sometimes swap to Cubase cause there are some parts that can get the creative juices flowing, and I still use Audacity and Sound Forge at odd times. But in the end I gravitate back to Sonar cause that's what I know best, and I sort of feel a part of a big family of like minded musicians here.
I hope the cakewalk team keep up the innovation cause every upgrade is another excuse to revisit old songs and start new ones, just another excuse to get creative and for me that's what it's all about.
2013/12/23 07:11:22
bobguitkillerleft
rebel007
I'm Australian, so my 20 cents is probably only worth about 17 U.S. but for what it's worth I think Sonar X3 is probably the best Windows DAW at the present time. I use my computer for many things other than making music, although about 75% of my hard drives are related to music, and I can tell you, that at times I have a hard time with Sonar. All in all though, X3 seems about the most stable of all the releases so far and I've been a cakewalk user since Pro Audio 9. I sometimes swap to Cubase cause there are some parts that can get the creative juices flowing, and I still use Audacity and Sound Forge at odd times. But in the end I gravitate back to Sonar cause that's what I know best, and I sort of feel a part of a big family of like minded musicians here.
I hope the cakewalk team keep up the innovation cause every upgrade is another excuse to revisit old songs and start new ones, just another excuse to get creative and for me that's what it's all about.




Hi,
As I said I love My Sonar,but today it's giving me fits like never before,I really think it's this semi dodge XPS Laptop thats been in constant and I mean constant use since April 2011.
 
At first I thought it was the "X3d" update[as all was fine till 4.30am last night],so I tried to roll back to no avail,[I sometimes think this Dell was "Pre #u&%ed" when I got it-my first ever computer at age 46...yikes!]So I did the big Re Install,to get back to X3A.....guess what?
 
Exact same thing as post #47,it's now 10.28pm in Adelaide so this has had me stumped for about 10 hours,something with the hardware,I'm now suspecting[everything reinstalled just fine],just a project with just 6 tracks WON'T play,no matter how preffs,or my VS-100 is set,it's almost the weirdest scene Iv'e had with a DAW[learning was hell] it'll work again,something hardware is to blame possibly,I just really thought that the reinstall,which was so smooth would have sussed it...oh well,I need a break anyway :(
 
Seriously down,not out...yet,will report when my luck changes[?]
Bob
2013/12/23 07:11:37
bobguitkillerleft
rebel007
I'm Australian, so my 20 cents is probably only worth about 17 U.S. but for what it's worth I think Sonar X3 is probably the best Windows DAW at the present time. I use my computer for many things other than making music, although about 75% of my hard drives are related to music, and I can tell you, that at times I have a hard time with Sonar. All in all though, X3 seems about the most stable of all the releases so far and I've been a cakewalk user since Pro Audio 9. I sometimes swap to Cubase cause there are some parts that can get the creative juices flowing, and I still use Audacity and Sound Forge at odd times. But in the end I gravitate back to Sonar cause that's what I know best, and I sort of feel a part of a big family of like minded musicians here.
I hope the cakewalk team keep up the innovation cause every upgrade is another excuse to revisit old songs and start new ones, just another excuse to get creative and for me that's what it's all about.




Hi,
As I said I love My Sonar,but today it's giving me fits like never before,I really think it's this semi dodge XPS Laptop thats been in constant and I mean constant use since April 2011.
 
At first I thought it was the "X3d" update[as all was fine till 4.30am last night],so I tried to roll back to no avail,[I sometimes think this Dell was "Pre #u&%ed" when I got it-my first ever computer at age 46...yikes!]So I did the big Re Install,to get back to X3A.....guess what?
 
Exact same thing as post #47,it's now 10.28pm in Adelaide so this has had me stumped for well over 10 hours,and it's something with the hardware,thats decided to give up,I'm now suspecting[everything reinstalled just fine though?],it's just a project with just 6 tracks WON'T play,no matter how preffs,or my VS-100 is set,it's almost the weirdest scene Iv'e had with a DAW[learning was hell] it'll work again,something hardware is to blame possibly,I just really thought that the reinstall,which was so smooth would have sussed it...oh well,I need a break anyway :(
 
Seriously down,not out...yet,will report when my luck changes[?]
Bob
2013/12/23 09:28:18
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Anderton
CakeAlexS
So hang on, to roll back do you run the patch again?
Otherwise my confusion (at least) is that it isn't in add/remove programs.



  1. Navigate through the C: drive maze and locate SONARPDR.EXE in the Sonar X3 Producer folder.
  2. Right-click on it and select Properties.
  3. Click on the Previous Versions tab.
  4. Windows will likely find a previous version.
  5. Right-click on it and select Properties.
  6. Click the Details tab, and under Product Version, you should see X3c.
  7. If selecting the file enables the Restore button, click on it and X3c will return. If not, or the file isn't local, click OK, click Open, click Run, and cross your fingers.
 
However - bear in mind that this may affect other installations related to Sonar, so use it at your own risk. It did seem to work as advertised when I tried it, although after testing I then went back to X3c because I didn't think that unchecking the 64-bit audio engine would mean the end of my ability to create music.




Thats a very dangerous way to rollback Craig. The main problem is that with this you are only rolling back the SONAR EXE.
 
With any update we may potentially change several related files. In this case if you made this change SONAR will probably crash under some conditions since the TTSRES file is now mismatched.
If you really want to do a manual rollback you will have to backup all related files prior to the change and restore them.
I don't even recommend this procedure in general but this is a much safer option:
- Backup the entire Program Files\Cakewalk\SONAR X3 Prooducer folder
- Backup the entire Program Files\Cakewalk\Shared Utilities folder
 
Now to rollback you can restore the previous folders above. Note that this doesn't take into account any plugins that may have been updated by the patch.
2013/12/23 09:41:05
Guitarmech111
The safest patch rollback is to uninstall and reinstall SONAR.
 
Unless there is something that the uninstall leaves behind from the patch, registry entries, etc..., It should be the simplest other than taking a restore point before installing any patch. But then you will lose installed items after that restore point.
 
In my case I figured that an uninstall and reinstall was the most efficient. It would be nice to have a rollback feature for the patch process.
2013/12/23 10:24:19
Splat
Guitarmech111
It would be nice to have a rollback feature for the patch process.




+1
2013/12/23 11:20:12
Anderton
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
That's a very dangerous way to rollback Craig. The main problem is that with this you are only rolling back the SONAR EXE.

 
There I go, living dangerously again
 
Thanks Noel, I've edited the original post to warn people and direct them to your post. I guess I just got lucky that it worked for me the one time I tried it.
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