• SONAR
  • really is x3d that bad (p.7)
2013/12/23 11:24:08
Splat
> There I go, living dangerously again
 
You are a musician - you can't help it ;)
2013/12/23 13:54:30
bobguitkillerleft
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Anderton
CakeAlexS
So hang on, to roll back do you run the patch again?
Otherwise my confusion (at least) is that it isn't in add/remove programs.



  1. Navigate through the C: drive maze and locate SONARPDR.EXE in the Sonar X3 Producer folder.
  2. Right-click on it and select Properties.
  3. Click on the Previous Versions tab.
  4. Windows will likely find a previous version.
  5. Right-click on it and select Properties.
  6. Click the Details tab, and under Product Version, you should see X3c.
  7. If selecting the file enables the Restore button, click on it and X3c will return. If not, or the file isn't local, click OK, click Open, click Run, and cross your fingers.
 
However - bear in mind that this may affect other installations related to Sonar, so use it at your own risk. It did seem to work as advertised when I tried it, although after testing I then went back to X3c because I didn't think that unchecking the 64-bit audio engine would mean the end of my ability to create music.




Thats a very dangerous way to rollback Craig. The main problem is that with this you are only rolling back the SONAR EXE.
 
With any update we may potentially change several related files. In this case if you made this change SONAR will probably crash under some conditions since the TTSRES file is now mismatched.
If you really want to do a manual rollback you will have to backup all related files prior to the change and restore them.
I don't even recommend this procedure in general but this is a much safer option:
- Backup the entire Program Files\Cakewalk\SONAR X3 Prooducer folder
- Backup the entire Program Files\Cakewalk\Shared Utilities folder
 
Now to rollback you can restore the previous folders above. Note that this doesn't take into account any plugins that may have been updated by the patch.


Well,
Heavy [but calm]Confusion here,in re to^^^^^^
I just copied and pasted ALL my "cakewalk projects"along with the picture cache-all of it,moved it to a new folder elsewhere on the drive[or another drive]then Un Installed X3,and then Re Installed it.shouldn't that be cool?
 
By simply leaving Plugs [mine are standard default placement VST cakewalk,and x86 VST,as well as 2 folders for 32 ,and 64bit Free/Donation plugs in My Documents,plus the "shared utilities internal"[something I never noticed in X1 or maybe even X2]anyway I just "un installed"the WHOLE of X3 via Explorer and reloaded my download[even though I own the DVD's as well]and all went back where it was, with melodyne I just ticked "repair",and all 1,539 plugs all fine,and back to X3A[I checked].
 
Still this 6 track  lead guitar/Bonhamfest track that's a bit old,and been copied back and forth between "cakewalk projects,and similarly named folders on 2 different external HDD's[always copied with the latest "picture cache"as well-not that I have a clue,it just seems sensible,anyway still totally unplayable  [dropouts!:( [regardless of every "setting/buffer adjustment possible,even after removing EVERY plugin....same stuttery[if I'm lucky]with the "Dropout" flash card warning...I'm stumped,other projects are playing as they should,so maybe something has corrupted THAT particular project?
 
I'm well "over it" now,as other less plugin "infested"projects are now playing fine since reinstalling X3A from scratch.
 
Anyway,my question now is I'm obviously[so the "about" logo says] to X3A, I'm now in possesion of X3B X3C,and X3D,which one should I go for?
 
X3C was working like a charm until I installed X3D[coincidence I think now],so my gut is telling me to go with that,however,THAT is the version where the "64 bit precision engine"has been reccomended "un-checked",and yes after weeks of having both the preferences,and Export 64 bit options unchecked,and with my "still shocking" How Utterly Loud It Is Everyday-since October 20 something 1993 "tinnitus",my obviously "burdened" hearing absolutely cannot tell a difference,but I would appreciate eventually "checking" this option in the future,so[drumroll]which version????
 
I'm a tad leary of "d"after last night/today,and now tonight,but that has now been "semi" proven to be some "anomaly"with the project itself,not the patch,or X3 in general[though the ludicrously high buffer settings for the VS-100 are a tad maddening!- and like Iv'e said before, an RME UCX-lowest latency of ALL RME devices apparently the Lowest RTL of any interface on the market[Chris from ADK mentioned this yesterdayhttp://www.gearslutz.com/board/9685498-post24.html],or a Prism Lyra is something I lust for,though I'am impressed with the VS-100's AD/DA and clear as a bell mic pre's/playback is impressive,I just don't quite get why it's so hard to write a "low latency" Win7/8 driver,it has been around since 2009?
 
So without further possible product smears,or hi-jacks on this thread,I'm 64 bit as much as poss.,so is it A B C or D?
 Sleepless Bob
2013/12/23 14:45:29
...wicked
I clicked on the thread title because I was expecting another cry baby post by someone who doesn't even know how to use a mouse...imagine my surprise when they nailed it on the head! Yay happy!
 
Everyone has their personal list of things they want changed/fixed/added (here's mine: varispeed, improved asset mgmt tools, center-lock now time), but the steady stream of newbz and luddites who can't figure stuff out and get on the forum with their hyperbole option cranked to 11 are just giving me a headache with all the eye-rolling I'm doing. 
2013/12/23 15:07:11
JonD
Guitarmech111
The safest patch rollback is to uninstall and reinstall SONAR.
 ....

 
Sure it is, but not exactly the most convenient.
 
The safest and most convenient method is to use software like "Acronis True Image: or "Paragon Backup and Recovery" to create backup images regularly and before every major update.
 
I've been doing the backup imaging thing for over a decade (Starting with Ghost 2003), and when it comes to major updates - any major update - I'm prepared -- utterly fearless, in fact, with no worries that something might go south due to an update...   Because even if it does, I can easily restore (rollback) to the previous state in a matter of minutes.
 
That's why I'm astounded when I hear about longtime, serious DAW users who forego this kind of safety net, and simply leave matters up to fate when applying updates.   Huh?!  Why?!
 
Guys -- please, please look into the backup imaging software.  Many of these products have a free version that does the job adequately.  Win7 - and presumably Win8 - even has this functionality built in (though it's extremely barebones - still, better than nothing!).
 
Start doing these backups, and I promise you:  No more wasted evenings/days/weekends reinstalling software.
 
(BTW, Windows System Restore is not the same thing.  If you rely on this to save your bacon, you will get burned sooner than later).
2013/12/23 16:37:11
gswitz
http://cwforum.wikia.com/wiki/Wiki_Content
 
I had no idea if it would be against copyright and trademark stuff to explicitly mention Cakewalk. I don't know those type of rules.
 
For this reason, I created a generic wiki name called http://cwforum.wikia.com
 
I haven't put any content in it, but I figured I'd give a shout to the group and see if you all are in support.
2013/12/23 16:42:46
Splat
JonD
Guitarmech111
The safest patch rollback is to uninstall and reinstall SONAR.
 ....

Guys -- please, please look into the backup imaging software. 




I always use Acronis, before that it was Ghost.
2013/12/23 16:45:22
mettelus
Very nice! I am willing to help out when I can.
2013/12/23 18:09:17
Guitarmech111
the only problem about imaging your drive is making sure you have an image after every install. I would forget and it is much easier for me to keep everything else I installed and just reinstall SONAR.
 
Which reminds me I need to make another backup image...  ;)
2013/12/23 18:11:31
Splat
Guitarmech111
the only problem about imaging your drive is making sure you have an image after every install. I would forget and it is much easier for me to keep everything else I installed and just reinstall SONAR.
 
Which reminds me I need to make another backup image...  ;)




What do you do with your data/Projects? Hope you don't need to reinstall them as well :)
2013/12/23 18:48:10
jbow
The only real problem I have with Sonar X3d is me being too dang lazy. It works much better than I do... LOL.
 
J
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