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2013/12/28 14:41:36
Sir Les
Thanks Blades...I do not want to hijack this thread..but, as we are on the topic, I must say thanks for your additional contributions to enlighten us.
 
This PowerCfg -query comes up and lists in the dos prompt...I am not able to get it to write a txt file to my desktop...at this point...but I will read in and find out how to.
Thing is this system I am on, is not my audio recording system...and it is taken apart, and awaiting new stuff which got toasted using a new powersupply from corsair...they are now inspecting the parts, and if they conclude their supply caused my failure of the new parts...They will buy me new parts...So I am waiting...and waiting..Sorry for the delays...And asap I will revise my Posted meaded thread of dread.....and new specs if need be.
 
No vM or Hyper anything installed or features running...check.
2013/12/28 15:25:57
Blades
PowerCfg -query [Long Number you made a note of] >> "%UserProfile%\Desktop\PowerScheme.txt"

 
It's the >> then the path that creates the file instead of just listing out in the cmd window.  So if you put >> c:\myfile.txt at the end after the long GUI number, it would create a text file at the root of your c: drive called myfile.txt.
 
Hope that helps.
2013/12/29 00:45:37
ElRoc0 Tha Gr81
mudgel
You don't play all those instruments simultaneously do you?
Rarely
It seems more like you want everything permanently connected
Yes, I need my set up to be stable for me but plenty of room for expansion & versatility for sessions.

in which case you'd be better off with using your best interface together with some AD converters. I have an RME FF800 and can connect 28 audio channels simultaneously just by using 2 ADAT devices for additional input. Only. 1 driver and 1 device as far as my DAW is concerned
Makes sense but I have my set the way I want it in an environment that is conducive to  creating for me. 
I just wanna work with the gear I have. A buddy brought over his logic based system we installed the drivers of all 3 interfaces made some test projects and seemed to work flawlessly. Like I've said before this configuration worked in X2.... They say when things are working leave them alone. Just starting to regret upgrading to X3

You will need to connect all your clock I/O so that all devices are synchronized. There is still no guarantee that each device's drivers will let them cooperate fully. All drivers are not created equal. Sometimes the WDM/KS drivers are OK, however, in most cases, ASIO drivers are the most stable and generally preferred for providing lower latency.
I've always used WDM drivers have always heard ASIO were more stable but because they're limiting. If you can only use one driver stability would most likely be a certainty. I have a word clock for any syncing issues.



2013/12/29 02:17:50
shmuelyosef
506,
I used to try and have everything always live on dedicated channels with several interfaces, but ran into similar issues a few years back. I have now simplified down to a 'staged' approach. 
 
I have an in-rack mixer (Behringer pro 8 channel) and patch panel Behringer 24x2 with per channel half/full/thru normalling) that allows me to swap instruments in and out easily (using half-normals on the patch panel) with my 'main' setup always patched through. I use my Saffire Pro 40 for the main stuff, but it's back panel is also brought out to a front panel that I made up. I also have 8 ADAT channels (in an actual ADAT that I only use the A/D converters) running into the ADAT input on the saffire for extra channels. My Mackie mixer feeds those. For MIDI, I use a single channel and I'm just anal about using the sub-channels...I typically have 4 of 5 MIDI input devices, but they are all coded to a unique channel and I just connect them in/out/thru. That way, I can have up to 16 soft-synths...each on unique channels.  
 
With this setup and ASIO driver I can run a lot of stuff...a couple of synths, bass player, a miked drum kit, several vocals, a saxophone, etc...and track live. Then I can singletrack over the live recordings in the polish mode. 
 
Not trying to start a fight...just putting a thought out there...
2013/12/29 07:27:21
Sir Les
Thanks Blades...I'm going into my Bios for a hunt on this internet machine, to see if, >>as Alex mentions<< something about cores in power management I do not see, and you saying something about Hyper v and vm causing things to be hidden in power management...(condition which I have)..and Bios settings untweaked being the cause of these settings not being in a normal state of showing.
I know I  usually turn off the speed step, and I also turn off the v-tech and virtual machine thingy in all my systems...But I will double check this machine, with the enlightened instructions to dig through all the bios settings to make sure I did not forget something that is inhibiting the showing of them core settings!.
 
Thanks for the how to copy the txt...I did try to get it to the desktop a few times...but failed ..My dos book is on the shelf...I guess I should pull it out, Ask for help on how to get this power management showing all settings?...as the posted link has that very question at the end of the thread you put up for US all...
 
 
2013/12/29 08:43:52
Paul P
 
Maybe the power management options shown are only those that the computer's configuration make available (number of cores, SpeedStep, etc.)
 
For example, I have no screen brightness option in my desktop's power management settings.
2013/12/29 13:30:11
stevec
No to go totally OT, and maybe it's a laptop vs. desktop thing, but my DAW is (and has been) running Win7 64 SP1 with absolutely no updates whatsoever.  This is just to say that having the latest Windows updates is not an absolute requirement to run SONAR, at least not under all conditions (such as an older Q9300 machine).
 
2013/12/29 20:53:24
ElRoc0 Tha Gr81
shmuelyosef
506
I used to try and have everything always live on dedicated channels with several interfaces, but ran into similar issues a few years back. I have now simplified down to a 'staged' approach. 

I completely understand & can appreciate that. It works for you. Unfortunately we all do not have the same needs & intentions.
 
I have an in-rack mixer (Behringer pro 8 channel) and patch panel Behringer 24x2 with per channel half/full/thru normalling) that allows me to swap instruments in and out easily (using half-normals on the patch panel) with my 'main' setup always patched through. I use my Saffire Pro 40 for the main stuff, but it's back panel is also brought out to a front panel that I made up. I also have 8 ADAT channels (in an actual ADAT that I only use the A/D converters) running into the ADAT input on the saffire for extra channels. My Mackie mixer feeds those. For MIDI, I use a single channel and I'm just anal about using the sub-channels...I typically have 4 of 5 MIDI input devices, but they are all coded to a unique channel and I just connect them in/out/thru. That way, I can have up to 16 soft-synths...each on unique channels.  
 
 Nice set up you got. For me It is very frustrating that this set up worked with X2 but will not with X3.
 
Not trying to start a fight...just putting a thought out there...


No offense taken at all... Honestly I appreciate everyone's pov. I'm learning alot. Seems it's the software & windows drivers not my system? My objective is to have my set up the way I imagine it but it's looking less likely with Windows. I was warned to switch to Mac & logic when I was upgrading my PC. You know what they say about a hard head.



2013/12/29 21:03:18
Splat
The "don't run windows update" philosophy is pretty much old skool now. It stems from back in the day when MS update would regularly cock up and slow down your machine. Nowadays that certainly isn't true, maybe once in a while a dirty patch comes in but MS is generally pretty quick to react...And I stress this is now rare as Microsoft have got their quality control nailed in.
 
The fact is nowadays Windows update is far more useful running (when convenient to the user) than not running at all, and in fact it bring in performance increases (not like years ago where it was the other way around). Only about 3 months ago for instance we got some USB patches. In the last two years I've probably had one dodgy patch which MS immediately rolled back 48 hours later.
 
And if you are ultra paranoid like me, have a backup strategy with something like Acronis.
2013/12/29 23:17:23
ElRoc0 Tha Gr81
I really would really love to hear from some people who use WDM/KS with Sonar X3D successfully.  
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