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2011/02/16 12:09:21
amiller
So, where do you guys put the LP-64 Multiband Compressor in the signal chain?  Do you send the output of your individual tracks to a master buss and then insert the LP-64 MP on that buss, or, do you bounce all of your tracks down to a stereo pair and then insert the LP-64 MP there?  What's the difference and why would you use one method over the other.  OR, maybe you have a totally different approach?
2011/02/16 12:23:40
Bub
I only use it when I'm mastering a project. I never use it on individual tracks, although there is nothing wrong with doing that.

I always put it on the master buss (with all other tracks and buses going to it)and it's always the next to last plug-in in the FX bin, the only one after it is the Boost 11 Limiter.

I personally prefer the Sonitus Multi Band Compressor though and don't use the LP-64 anymore and I always adjust my volumes so Boost 11 is hardly being used. It colors the sound too much for my taste if you have it running too hot.
2011/02/16 12:49:51
amiller
Bub


... I personally prefer the Sonitus Multi Band Compressor though and don't use the LP-64...
Why do you prefer the Sonitus over the LP-64?

2011/02/16 13:24:55
LANEY
It all depends on the sound I am looking for that particular song.  Sometime in the FX on a track and sometimes on the drum buss.  It really depends on what the sound is I am going for on that song.
2011/02/16 13:30:51
chuckebaby
Bub


I only use it when I'm mastering a project. I never use it on individual tracks, although there is nothing wrong with doing that.

I always put it on the master buss (with all other tracks and buses going to it)and it's always the next to last plug-in in the FX bin, the only one after it is the Boost 11 Limiter.

I personally prefer the Sonitus Multi Band Compressor though and don't use the LP-64 anymore and I always adjust my volumes so Boost 11 is hardly being used. It colors the sound too much for my taste if you have it running too hot.

i feel the same way...i love boost 11 as much as the next guy but when you use it more than you should..its start to breathe.
2011/02/16 15:28:27
Guest
IMHO multiband compression has no place in the mixing process and Boost11 has no place in any process. By the time Boost11 starts to do something it is unbearable.
2011/02/16 15:50:06
Bub
I agree with 10Ten, it just adds a kind of harshness or glassiness is the only way I can describe it. That's why if I use it, I make sure the signal going in to it is hot and I only have to adjust the input knob a db or two if that.

I like the limiter in Ozone 4 but I'm sure there's even better than that out there.

To answer amiller ... I just prefer the way the Sonitus multi band sounds. I like the way it's laid out. It's basically 5 of the single Sonitus Comp's lumped in to one. I keep going back to the Sonitus effects. I still use the reverb, comp, multi comp, eq, modulator.

Bub.


2011/02/16 16:08:28
chuckebaby
i like the sonnitus effects as well.and ten brings up a pretty good point as far as does boost 11 really even belong in the proccess.i used it alot when i had home studio because i was limited for plug ins.but its a little useless now though i can see where buds comming from as i feel the same ,run it hot and use it sparingly.
2011/02/16 16:19:36
amiller
Bub

...
To answer amiller ... I just prefer the way the Sonitus multi band sounds. I like the way it's laid out. It's basically 5 of the single Sonitus Comp's lumped in to one. I keep going back to the Sonitus effects. I still use the reverb, comp, multi comp, eq, modulator.

Bub.
I'll have to give the Sonitus multi band a try tonight...thanks

2011/02/16 16:23:05
bitflipper
The LP-64 Multiband is meant to be used on the master bus, and generally goes before your mastering limiter to bring up average levels before going in to the limiter.

It is useful for bass-heavy productions such as dance music, where very hot kick levels trigger the compressor causing other instruments to wimp out. Compressing the low frequencies separately from everything else helps avoid that problem.

The LP-64 is a linear-phase effect, which means it introduces a lot of latency and it is pretty CPU-intensive. It should therefore only be used during the mastering process, after raising your buffer sizes. It should not be used as a track effect. If you need a multiband on individual tracks, use the Sonitus Multiband. IMO it is a better compressor anyway, and certainly a much lighter load on your CPU.
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