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2013/12/27 23:06:07
Keni
I don't know if this is only from 8.5.3 or even if it's with any songs created in earlier (Pre-X) versions...
 
Open 8.5.3 song in X3d
Open the PC on any track
 
Expected:
PC plugins should be the default plugins
 
Actual:
I get Bus Compressor, EQ, Tube Saturation, and Console Emulator Bus
 
Why is it defaulting to Bus devices on tracks?
 
Anyone else find this?
 
Keni
 
2013/12/28 02:50:24
robert_e_bone
Sorry , I can be of no help here.  I always leave projects from prior Sonar versions in their original Sonar version, so I never open and edit them in subsequent versions.
 
So, when I got X1, I only created new projects there, and the same when I went to X2, then on to X3.
 
I no longer have any 8.5.3 projects, and no longer have 8.5.3 installed, nor do I even still have the discs to install it to check out your particular situation.
 
I just thought I would at least let you know that I DID read your post - just have no immediate help for you - sorry.
 
Bob Bone
 
2013/12/28 03:29:19
dubdisciple
I have no 8.53 projects either.  Hmmm maybe the demo projects are on my old install discs
2013/12/28 06:43:40
jb101
Hi, Keni, I will have a little play later with some older projects to see what I can see.
 
I do think it's sad that the Alex Bug is spreading, and that people are now posting in this formal manner, especially someone like you, Keni.
 
This used to be a friendly place that humans posted for support from their peers, not a highly policed Beta Test Forum.  Very sad. <sigh>
 
I will experiment with your steps later, Keni.  I hope this forum can return from Robot Nerd Hell soon.
2013/12/28 07:14:00
mettelus
I have a bunch and have seen what you are posting. I see the (PC76 U-type Compressor, EQ, and Tube Saturation), but the two I just opened (from 2005) do not include the Console Emulator (although I have seen this default as well). Although they come up, the PC is off, as are all modules, so I have never had an issue with this. They are easily replaced (via the presets), and I certainly do not want CW to decide what should be on/off there. If them came online to someone else's "generic preference" in a ON state, I would have issues.
 
I have advanced projects through versions, but immediately save them with the version in the name so I know what was edited where. I have pulled wrk files from 1999 into the X-series without issues.
2013/12/28 10:20:33
Splat
jb101
I do think it's sad that the Alex Bug is spreading, and that people are now posting in this formal manner, especially someone like you, Keni.


These sort of personal daily derogatory comments from you jb101 are getting extremely old. Any chance you get you jump in to criticise me personally. I get it, you don't like me and you don't like my methods (you've written about 50 posts this last month tell people how awful I am).
 
Funnily enough these methods are managing to identify issues a lot more easily than have been in the past in these forums, and this WILL help Cakewalk reproduce bugs. Having worked in QA depts. myself I know half the bug reports you get are withdrawn because you can't understand what the user is getting across. Now here I understood what Keni had to say straight away and so did you. BTW these methods aren't mine, they are used in software QA depts all over the world It's called "test cases". But sure, you hate it and you hate me. I get it. Now please stop and be a little more positive, it's not constructive for any of us. Thankyou...
 
Back to topic....
 
Keni - Sorry I only have X1 and above right now...
2013/12/28 11:12:11
Anderton
I don't think it's necessary to make this personal...I do find the "formal" bug report format helpful for quick scans of understanding an issue, at least it's easier for me than going through text. Also, the "formal" aspect pretty much disappears after the first post in a thread that does the setup.
 
Granted that Alex is known to go over the top sometimes, but it's important to understand that Alex IS a robot - he's an experimental android project created at the University of Antwerp in the Netherlands. Alex stands for "Android Logic-Enabled eXperiment," and he was originally optimized to scan through millions of lines of code (a task humans generally don't like). Apparently he's rather genial in person, although the fact that he doesn't need to sleep causes some issues and in the past couple years, he's kind of taken on a life of his own.
 
He's also quite an accomplished musician; here's a clip of his band from a performance they did at least year's Musikmesse. Alex is the one playing bass.
 
But getting back to the reporting of issues, I do think this is a "temporary" situation as bugs/issues will surface when there's a new update, but then fade into the background once they're reported and/or fixed. We're already seeing more threads about getting the most out of X3d as people start using it more, and I suspect that trend will continue.
 
Besides, it's
2013/12/28 11:18:15
Splat
 BTW here is screenshot of the Cakewalk problem reporter in case some people have never seen it, look familiar?
BTW I didn't create this, maybe another robot ;)
 

 
 
 
 
2013/12/28 11:53:48
jb101
CakeAlexS
jb101
I do think it's sad that the Alex Bug is spreading, and that people are now posting in this formal manner, especially someone like you, Keni.


These sort of personal daily derogatory comments from you jb101 are getting extremely old. Any chance you get you jump in to criticise me personally. I get it, you don't like me and you don't like my methods (you've written about 50 posts this last month tell people how awful I am).
 
Funnily enough these methods are managing to identify issues a lot more easily than have been in the past in these forums, and this WILL help Cakewalk reproduce bugs. Having worked in QA depts. myself I know half the bug reports you get are withdrawn because you can't understand what the user is getting across. Now here I understood what Keni had to say straight away and so did you. BTW these methods aren't mine, they are used in software QA depts all over the world It's called "test cases". But sure, you hate it and you hate me. I get it. Now please stop and be a little more positive, it's not constructive for any of us. Thankyou...
 
Back to topic....
 
Keni - Sorry I only have X1 and above right now...


That's my point, Alex. This is a user forum, and not a QA department or a Cakewalk Problem Reporter.

I have posted several comments about your behavior on here, but you have posted far more rude, bullying, belittling comments towards others repeatedly..

No one has appointed you to the post of forum police or saviour of Cakewalk. Please give it a rest and stop being so singularly unpleasant.
2013/12/28 11:58:31
dubdisciple
As much as it can be annoying when forums become overly formal, it is more annoying to see endless posts like "Cakewalk, fix your stupid [insert feature].  It doesn't work like [insert product]" and we have to pull teeth for several pages to get to exactly what the problem is. I have had a couple of not so good moments with Alex but I do realize he is trying to help.  Maybe that enthusiasm goes over the top, but the intentions are good. I don't always agree with his methods or how he interacts but it is no more my job to police him than it is his job to police others. I think you take it all as a package with him and filter what you cannot tolerate without tossing the baby out with the bath
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