Keni
Hi Alex...

Not to worry... I take no offence and I appreciate your help... I'm sorry you and jb have some issues but I think we're all here for pretty much the same reasons... Personalities can easily get bruised....

Thanks for trying...

Keni

 
Thanks Keni. And JB101 I am happy to leave you alone, please leave me alone and everything will be fine (and these threads won't get trashed). Like I say I have heard what you have got to say, you have heard what I've got to say. There's no point in drilling an endless point... Thankyou.

Anderton
I don't think it's necessary to make this personal...I do find the "formal" bug report format helpful for quick scans of understanding an issue, at least it's easier for me than going through text. Also, the "formal" aspect pretty much disappears after the first post in a thread that does the setup.
 
Granted that Alex is known to go over the top sometimes, but it's important to understand that Alex IS a robot - he's an experimental android project created at the University of Antwerp in the Netherlands. Alex stands for "Android Logic-Enabled eXperiment," and he was originally optimized to scan through millions of lines of code (a task humans generally don't like). Apparently he's rather genial in person, although the fact that he doesn't need to sleep causes some issues and in the past couple years, he's kind of taken on a life of his own.
 
He's also quite an accomplished musician; here's a clip of his band from a performance they did at least year's Musikmesse. Alex is the one playing bass.
 
But getting back to the reporting of issues, I do think this is a "temporary" situation as bugs/issues will surface when there's a new update, but then fade into the background once they're reported and/or fixed. We're already seeing more threads about getting the most out of X3d as people start using it more, and I suspect that trend will continue.
 
Besides, it's

Ahhh... I wondered how the Antwerp experiments were going! ;-)

Keni

CakeAlexS
> I have posted several comments about your behavior on here, but you have posted far more rude, bullying, belittling comments towards others repeatedly..
 
JB101 just use this thread as a typical example. I didn't post anything at all in this thread and yet you post a derogatory comment about me from nowhere. You are at risk of becoming delusional and obsessive. Please stop it's not good for your health or for mine.
 

dubdisciple
I don't always agree with his methods or how he interacts but it is no more my job to police him than it is his job to police others.

+1
 
I have no right to be forum police with anybody, I can only guide people (as they can guide me).
So JB101 please adopt this method towards me, you are NOT the forum police either. There was no need for that first comment of yours, I wasn't even in this thread, and now you are (of course) at full scale war with me for some reason. As I said I get it, you dislike me and my methods. Now please move on....
 
And Keni I must apologise for this hijacking of your thread. Sorry...

Thanks Alex...

Not to worry. I take no personal issues of this type with members of the forum... We all live very different lives and don't get to see each other's shoes let alone walk a mile in them...

I do my best to ignore personal "attacks" and not react to them in my replies... Not always easy and I'm sure I'm not always successful, but I work at it...

I hope you guys can arrive at a settlement where you can get along better...

Keni

CakeAlexS
> I have posted several comments about your behavior on here, but you have posted far more rude, bullying, belittling comments towards others repeatedly..
 
(A)JB101 just use this thread as a typical example. I didn't post anything at all in this thread and yet you post a derogatory comment about me from nowhere. You are at risk of becoming delusional and obsessive. Please stop it's not good for your health or for mine.
 

dubdisciple
I don't always agree with his methods or how he interacts but it is no more my job to police him than it is his job to police others.

+1
 
(B)I have no right to be forum police with anybody, I can only guide people (as they can guide me).
So JB101 please adopt this method towards me, you are NOT the forum police either. There was no need for that first comment of yours, I wasn't even in this thread, and now you are (of course) at full scale war with me for some reason. As I said I get it, you dislike me and my methods. Now please move on....
 
And Keni I must apologise for this hijacking of your thread. Sorry...

Sorry, Keni, just wanted to answer these points.
 
(A) My comment was to Keni about his altered writing style.  If I am delusional, then it is a delusion shared by many according to the contents of my P.M. inbox.  As for obsessive - check you post count, hours of posting etc., including, sadly, Christmas Day.
 
(B) I am not being "Forum Police", just attempting to "guide" one single, argumentative member, who feels the need to argue with and belittle MANY people on here.  Your constant use of phrases like "full scale war" tell me much about your state of mind.  I  will move on when you do..
 
Cheers.

Eesh... I hope you two don't live anywhere close to each other...
 

dubdisciple
I have had a couple of not so good moments with [edit - insert name of any one of a number of human beings here] but I do realize he is trying to help.  Maybe that enthusiasm goes over the top, but the intentions are good. I don't always agree with his methods or how he interacts but it is no more my job to police him than it is his job to police others. I think you take it all as a package with him and filter what you cannot tolerate without tossing the baby out with the bath.

This is great advice for dealing with people in general. I have a friend who is, shall we say, somewhat difficult to deal with. But, he has a truly warm heart, and we all have our demons. I accept him for who he is, and we have a very good relationship because he knows he can be himself and I won't be constantly judging him. Although that doesn't eliminate the part that's difficult to deal with, it makes it much easier for the truly warm heart to surface...which is what's really at the core of his personality.
 
Zoom out, and it's clear Alex is trying to help, albeit with a style that can be abrasive. However, to me that's preferable to someone who has a style that can be abrasive but is not at all interested in being helpful. Furthermore, the "text only" trap is always in play, which makes it difficult to see the true personality behind the words.

I for one welcome our new qa overlord

X3 has a lot of problems with backwards-compatibility of this sort.  By this sort, I mean that new functions will not necessarily behave well in projects from before those functions existed.
 
Another one is that the track-color-follows-bus feature did not work correctly in pre-X3 projects (I have not tried it in X3d).
 
All features from the previous versions are fine in X3, as far as I can tell, but new features will often have problems.

brian brock
X3 has a lot of problems with backwards-compatibility of this sort.  By this sort, I mean that new functions will not necessarily behave well in projects from before those functions existed.
 
Another one is that the track-color-follows-bus feature did not work correctly in pre-X3 projects (I have not tried it in X3d).
 
All features from the previous versions are fine in X3, as far as I can tell, but new features will often have problems.

Yes. While it's considerate that Cakewalk will let you open new projects in older versions (many programs lock you out of doing that), all bets are off as to compatibility of newer features.

Anderton
Zoom out, and it's clear Alex is trying to help, albeit with a style that can be abrasive. However, to me that's preferable to someone who has a style that can be abrasive but is not at all interested in being helpful. Furthermore, the "text only" trap is always in play, which makes it difficult to see the true personality behind the words.

Amen to that, thankyou. I suspect if you actually met me you wouldn't even recognise me. I would add I'm actually trying to be perfectly polite when trying to identify bugs, I just have to keep it level headed (hence the "robot" persona which was brilliantly written). Occasionally I got a little frustrated as I've asked for the same thing several times and not got any feedback, I would say that is only human. There are other threads where I'm happy to chat and post silly stuff... that's just the way I am. Not much different from the rest of us I would dare to say.
 
>  If I am delusional, then it is a delusion shared by many according to the contents of my P.M. inbox. 
 
Thankyou, You have made your point now several times, you don't like me or my methods, and now you are saying others don't like me or my methods (at least it's a new angle). In fact I am a such terrible person I've probably killed several children whilst troubleshooting Sonar bugs. I understand now, you've said this a zillion times. Now have you finished?
 
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Now onto Sonar 8.x projects....