From what I've read, there has been a LOT of problems with V-Vocal crashing with multiple open clips. I was having major problems with V-Vocal crashing certain projects, always with multiple V-Vocal clips (with V-Vocal open, tracks not frozen). This had happened to me with an earlier version of Sonar (8.0 I think...) as well. I usually got an "un-handled exception error" and it was always in "cronus.dll".

After finding out this dll is part of V-Vocal, I also discovered that it was excluded in the plug-in manager under the DirectX audio effects (DX) category. I enabled it, my crashing problem went away, and I forgot about it.

I upgraded to the latest version (8.3.1.372) a few weeks ago when it became available. I recently was working on another project with multiple V-Vocal clips in it, and my crashing problem returned. After much cursing and editing short clips followed by saving after each edit, I started looking for info to send to Cake Support to get this resolved. Part of that was searching the forum and discovering many people have this same problem and error - and not seeing a fix reported. I did see a complete un-installation and purge of the Registry and new installation recommended several times though, including at least one post that said that was the recommended course of action by Cake TS.

I eventually remembered my earlier experience, and I checked the plug-in manager again. Low and behold, "cronus.dll" was once again excluded, which tells me that's part of the installation routine, and it's probably supposed to be that way. However, when I enabled cronus.dll, my crashing problem immediately went away, and it hasn't crashed since.

I don't think the "fix" is as simple as that, so for me, this is more of a workaround. But for me at least, it is working. I'd like to suggest that anyone else who is having this problem try this as well, and let's report the results back.

Good luck - and I hope this helps someone!!

Vinny

I will give that a try - I'm another having this cronus.dll problem.

Good luck - let us know if that works!

ORIGINAL: gadget

I will give that a try - I'm another having this cronus.dll problem.

Check the version of your Cronus.dll. You should be able to hover your mouse pointer over the file in Windows Explorer and the version data will appear. The version that's being shipped with the 8.x updates is 1.5.1.0 (timestamped 10/4/2007). Note that this is older than the version that had been shipped previously (1.5.2.0 from 10/1/2008). It would seem that Cakewalk's fix was to regress the Roland supplied file back to a previous version.

(I keep both of them around...just in case.)

The version on my machine is 1.5.1.0, creation date is 6-28-2008 though. Still had problems with it.

Mine is 1.5.1.0 with creation date '6 Dec 2008'...

... and modified date '10 April 2007' (!)

Modified before created - now that's clever

Anyhow, joking aside, which one's best to have?

ORIGINAL: gadget

Anyhow, joking aside, which one's best to have?

The only thing I know is that Cakewalk wants you to have 1.5.1.0.

I run one version on one machine, and the other version on the other...and haven't run into big problems with either...but that may be because I adopted the habit long ago, of committing V-Vocal changes immediately via Bounce to Clips. I've never had the cahones to leave V-Vocal inline.

Hi Vinny,

I was having the same problem with the cronus.dll as well. Constant crashing and disruptions of mixing. I havent been working on a projects that included vocals for a while so the problem faded from my mind. I'm glad I found your post and I will check my V-Vocal plug to see if they are enabled or not and run some tests.

Thanks for the information!

Eric

awesome! great find, I was having problems with this as well.

It's not quite a find yet - lets see if it helps anyone (other than me)!