kennywtelejazz
 
I put it out there .
 
You can read into it and take it anyway you want too ...
 
 
Kenny
 

Pretty much says it all. Honestly Kenny, I'm done with this BS.
 
 
 

spacey

kennywtelejazz
 
I put it out there .
 
You can read into it and take it anyway you want too ...
 
 
Kenny
 

Pretty much says it all. Honestly Kenny, I'm done with this BS.
 
 
 

The only one here spreading a load of BS here in this thread is you spacey ..
You quote one little article of Bob Taylor 's to back up your scattered point of view that lacks focus and now all of a sudden that makes you an expert ? ...give me a break ...lol
 
You can fool some of the folks around that may have never collected high end money guitars like I have done for decades
Or you can try to run your BS on  folks who haven't gotten the chance to play fine examples of them through their local stores or friends that may own them ...
 
You can't fool me by all means you can feel free to try ....
 
I have noticed a tendency in every thread of yours I have read recently...
One , you act as if everything you say is the gospel ....
Two , if someone doesn't agree with you or has a different point of view , you start acting like a little pussie who brought that bat and the baseball to the field  who then all of a sudden starts threatening the people that are playing that you are gonna leave ...go ahead leave I don't care ...as far as I'm concerned you don't know $hit ...
That you have proven to me a countless number of times ...in a way it's too bad because I used to like you in the past ..
 
 
Kenny

kennywtelejazz

spacey

kennywtelejazz
 
I put it out there .
 
You can read into it and take it anyway you want too ...
 
 
Kenny
 

Pretty much says it all. Honestly Kenny, I'm done with this BS.
 
 
 

The only one here spreading a load of BS here in this thread is you spacey ..
You quote one little article of Bob Taylor 's to back up your scattered point of view that lacks focus and now all of a sudden that makes you an expert ? ...give me a break ...lol
 
You can fool some of the folks around that may have never collected high end money guitars like I have done for decades
Or you can try to run your BS on  folks who haven't gotten the chance to play fine examples of them through their local stores or friends that may own them ...
 
You can't fool me 
 
I have noticed a tendency in every thread of yours I have read recently...
One , you act as if everything you say is the gospel ....
Two , if someone doesn't agree with you or has a different point of view , you start acting like a little pussie who brought that bat and the baseball to the field  who then all of a sudden starts threatening the people that are playing that you are gonna leave ...go ahead leave I don't care ...as far as I'm concerned you don't know $hit ...
That you have proven to me a countless number of times ...in a way it's too bad because I used to like you in the past ..
 
 
Kenny

"I think the topic of laminated vs solid wood may be a questionable topic for this forum.
I feel like it's to easy to drift and bump into "feelings" rather than staying on topic with known facts about the two different construction methods- pro's, con's and pricing."
 
"I do apologize and think I've expressed all I care to about the topic."
 
Kenny you have confirmed my statements.
The topic was the differences between laminated and solid body acoustic guitars that I specifically mentioned I was interested in learning about and was sharing what I gathered so far.
Also specifically mentioned I don't build them and probably never will because of not being able to justify the added expense to my shop.
 
Do I tire of threads losing focus on the topic? Yes I do. If they can't stay on topic it becomes confusing or such as this one. It drifts and bumps into "feelings".
 
I fail to understand exactly why communication, sharing of ideas, about things we have in common, such as guitars, can get to where this one is. I do know that it happens often between people in this forum and is something that ruins it.
 
For me the deal is I don't think it's something that can be explained and/or corrected to avoid. I think the only solution is to not participate.
It seems that trying to de-escalate a problem thread by ending it is not an option that works. It seems that the only real way to avoid the issue(s) is to not participate in the forum.
 
I've had a lot of vacation time in the last quarter of this year and wanted to spend some of it here with old friends -so I did. This is the last week of my freedom from the day job and although it's not the way I wanted to end my time here and get back to such a busy life - it does however show me that there is always a bright side of things LOL.
 
Coming back after being away for so long was for the most part fun and I enjoyed talking with a few old friends but all in all...it's not something I'll be doing again. Just doesn't work.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Since my name was mentioned, I'll post a few thoughts on acoustic guitars.
 
I have and have had some pretty nice ones over the years. The Martin 000-28 I custom ordered a few years ago was a long process of deciding what model I wanted, what woods and finish I desired. Being left handed, made it virtually impossible to actually play the ones that intrigued me. I did a lot of reading and watching videos. I had to give thought to what I would be doing with the guitar. Would it be for studio only? Would I ever play live with it? How would it record? Did I want electronics or not?
 
Once I had it narrowed down, I got lucky and found a new 000-28 in a small guitar shop about 30 miles from home. I asked a good friend of mine who is a great player and right handed to take a trip with me and play it for me. Once I heard it, and asked him about the playability, it made my decision comfortable.
 
My Martin, while only a few years old has been sounding better and better as the months go by. I have an emotional attachment to it now that just grows fonder every time I play it.
 
Michael mentioned the touring aspect when making a purchase decision. I've never let that really enter into my decision making process, and I can't think of any one I know who has. I've seen some pretty big name artists that tour with some very expensive guitars both vintage and new. I saw Joe Bonamassa and during the electric part of his set, he played a 59 Les Paul that had to be worth somewhere around $500000. He then played an older Gibson acoustic J45 that was obviously a vintage guitar and those can be equally pricey.
 
Acts like that have their instruments well looked after and insured for touring.
 
As for the modern guitars, when I took the VIP tour at the Martin factory, they had some of the laminate Mexican made guitars there on display. The way the guy explained it to me was that they had certain models that they were able to replicate using laminates and using the bracing designs that are unique to some models of the hand made Martins and designed a process to mass produce them. This made a Martin guitar that was available to the masses at a price point that was fairly affordable. They sound and play very well, but are obviously an instrument that will not appreciate in value like a hand made all wood Martin.

Randy P
 
 
Michael mentioned the touring aspect when making a purchase decision. I've never let that really enter into my decision making process, and I can't think of any one I know who has.
 
 

 
Been thinking about that today, and I'm pretty sure Willy Porter (for example) plays custom-made solid wood Bischoff acoustics on tour.
 
Also I note that Martin are using the word 'layered' instead of 'laminated' for their lower end models...

spacey
 

"I think the topic of laminated vs solid wood may be a questionable topic for this forum.
I feel like it's to easy to drift and bump into "feelings" rather than staying on topic with known facts about the two different construction methods- pro's, con's and pricing."

"I do apologize and think I've expressed all I care to about the topic."
 
Kenny you have confirmed my statements.
The topic was the differences between laminated and solid body acoustic guitars that I specifically mentioned I was interested in learning about and was sharing what I gathered so far.
Also specifically mentioned I don't build them and probably never will because of not being able to justify the added expense to my shop.
 
Do I tire of threads losing focus on the topic? Yes I do. If they can't stay on topic it becomes confusing or such as this one. It drifts and bumps into "feelings".
 
I fail to understand exactly why communication, sharing of ideas, about things we have in common, such as guitars, can get to where this one is. I do know that it happens often between people in this forum and is something that ruins it.
 
For me the deal is I don't think it's something that can be explained and/or corrected to avoid. I think the only solution is to not participate.
It seems that trying to de-escalate a problem thread by ending it is not an option that works. It seems that the only real way to avoid the issue(s) is to not participate in the forum.
 
I've had a lot of vacation time in the last quarter of this year and wanted to spend some of it here with old friends -so I did. This is the last week of my freedom from the day job and although it's not the way I wanted to end my time here and get back to such a busy life - it does however show me that there is always a bright side of things LOL.
 
Coming back after being away for so long was for the most part fun and I enjoyed talking with a few old friends but all in all...it's not something I'll be doing again. Just doesn't work.
 

I'm not gonna go tit for tat w you ....
My time is very important to me and there is no payday of any value or money in it for me 
The thing is , every thread I have ever started here in The Coffee House has had unexpected twists and turns regarding some of the posters who have shown up ...
The styles and forms of communication some posters  have chosen to express. are unique to themselves and I have come to expect that certain people will behave and act in a way that is consistent with their nature and personal temperament .  
 
We must be different people because I have never called any one out on what they have said unless I have felt it was directed at me personally or if it was done in a way that I have felt was inappropriate ...
 
I'm not here to Micro Manage what people say or express...What ever they choose to say or express is a reflection of them not me ...
Having said that , I will give you credit where due ..once the RUB between us took of ,
You did attempt to take the high road by putting how you feel out there and you certainly have that right
 
Kenny