And I probably should read the follow up posts. lol
 
At one point I had figured out a toggle mode. Like you hold a modifier or something and it temporarily engages the last tool selected until you release it. Darned if I can remember what it was but it was super handy for MIDI editing and would suit this purpose as well. Unfortunately it's one of those things I don't think they put on the shortcut list but i's buried in the manual somewhere. Maybe under the one of the Tools entries.
 
Sorry... I'm not being very helpful. ;-p
 

Beepster
I should probably read the whole thread (I'm attempting to make dinner though) but AFAIK they seem to be trying to make splitting a thing of the past with the whole swipe/promote/auto crossfade stuff but I always just use S or use the function keys or HUD to get at the split tool. Is that not working?
 
Yeah... I should read the thread. I'm obviously missing something.

 
Yup... I've used that too, but it's too slow and clumsy when doing a lot of editing... When you read the htread and get to the few posts just prior to where your first post appears you'll see that I found some ways to deal with the issue and they won't be too bad... Hopefully they will implement my FR or something like it to give alt-click type immediacy to an isolated split (I'm not sure what to call it ;-))...
 
Now I'm finding I can work with the other features and they are extremely helpful for getting some things done quickly...
 
I don't often use auto crossfades and prefer to draw my own as I wish them to be... I haven't tried this aspect yet and I am curious to see what happens...
 
Here I go! ;-)
 
Keni
 

Hmmm...
 
A little clumsy, but I'm sure I'll get better at it as I'm more used to the commands and processes... the order I do some things is definitely an issue...
 
I'm finding the fastest way to deal with un-equal split points is to toggle back and forth between the Smart Tool and the Split Tool using F5<>F8... Once you've selected the split tool as your preference it will stick when quickly going back and forth to the smart tool...
 
I can manually place faces on each clip to my liking but I did stumble a few times getting used to enabling my second clip from mute with the K key.... Luckily I've been suing that all the time so I'm sure this will get easier for me... Doing this with Ctrl-click will force splits on all of the lanes...
 
I can finally edit (within my zoom issues) and have the advantages of the new toolset!
 
My many thanks to all who listened and helped me on the path of discovery... I am grateful to you all!
 
Now if I had as good a solution for zooming I could be somewhat happy! ;-)
 
Keni
 
 

Keni
I sense some anger in your words and I hope that's not the case.

It isn't! It's frustration watching you not be able to take advantage of what makes the Take Lanes cool. BTW - I completely forgot to mention that you don't have to use the comping tools in Take Lanes, you can use the Edit Tool when you want to do more "standard" editing. I had exactly the same kind of situation today that you described - different takes with parts that needed to overlap - and simply used the Edit tool to do the needed splits, slip-edits, and fades.
 
I really feel I need to emphasize that when I was first presented with comping, I couldn't wrap my head around it at all so I understand your situation. But not only is there light at the end of the tunnel, you'll be able to get things done much faster and with a choice of more options once you've got it all figured out.

Keni
My many thanks to all who listened and helped me on the path of discovery... I am grateful to you all!
 
Now if I had as good a solution for zooming I could be somewhat happy! ;-)

You seem like a decent guy and we want to help!
 
Did you see my suggestions about zooming in your other thread? On a final mix I was doing today I would have gone insane without auto-zoom. Or at least still be mixing it because of all the time I would have spent zooming and re-sizing...

> Now if I had as good a solution for zooming I could be somewhat happy! ;-)
 
We're waiting for you on the other thread :)
Appears to be two angles
a) I want to know what the issue is in case something needs to be sorted.
b) The rest wanna get you on a better workflow...
 
So two pronged approach :)

Cheers and thanks..

Anderton

Keni
I sense some anger in your words and I hope that's not the case.

It isn't! It's frustration watching you not be able to take advantage of what makes the Take Lanes cool. BTW - I completely forgot to mention that you don't have to use the comping tools in Take Lanes, you can use the Edit Tool when you want to do more "standard" editing. I had exactly the same kind of situation today that you described - different takes with parts that needed to overlap - and simply used the Edit tool to do the needed splits, slip-edits, and fades.
 
I really feel I need to emphasize that when I was first presented with comping, I couldn't wrap my head around it at all so I understand your situation. But not only is there light at the end of the tunnel, you'll be able to get things done much faster and with a choice of more options once you've got it all figured out.

Thanks Craig...
 
I'm glad I didn't make you angry... the last thing I want to do is get anyone upset... But frustrating a frustrated artist can be a touchy situation! ;-)
 
I got the idea of the toolset when it was announced and was eager to check it out... I like many of the tools and I'm sure I will use them as I can picture times when they will speed things up... Especially as I get more used to where they are! ;-)
 
I'm feeling much better about it now as that was an issue. I tried working with the edit tool, but the group of tools it carries still stunted my work... Right now I'm leaning towards selecting split with a couple of F8 presses, then simply hitting F8 when I need to do such unequal splitting then back to Smart tool with F5 where I can still do everything else... tho I have to remember to un mute the overlapped clip with K and not ctrl-click... then I can create separate fades for each clip and all is well...I also eliminate any empty spaces that are sometimes created as well... Very nice...
 
Now If I could only Zoom better/easier! <sigh>... ;-)
 
Zoom, zoom, Zoom....
 
Thanks yet again Craig!
 
Keni
 

Anderton

Keni
My many thanks to all who listened and helped me on the path of discovery... I am grateful to you all!
 
Now if I had as good a solution for zooming I could be somewhat happy! ;-)

You seem like a decent guy and we want to help!
 
Did you see my suggestions about zooming in your other thread? On a final mix I was doing today I would have gone insane without auto-zoom. Or at least still be mixing it because of all the time I would have spent zooming and re-sizing...

Thanks again Craig...
 
Too bad auto zoom really doesn't work for me... for various reasons I'm not always on the track I'm watching...
 
Zooming used to be a simple thing for me things were either squashed to see as much as possible or I was instantly moved to the desired zoom with a z-click-drag.... Right now I must constantly, resize the screen suing a few different zoom control (of course located at distant parts of screen/keyboard) before I can narrow in on what I want... Except of course for zooming lanes and/or tracks that contain (hidden or not) more than 1 lane in which case it acts with the same characteristics and limitations as Lane zoom... then I don't get the zoom I want EVER... <sigh>...
 
I will look for your other post. I thought I read one but it sounds like maybe not that one...
 
Keni
 

CakeAlexS
> Now if I had as good a solution for zooming I could be somewhat happy! ;-)
 
We're waiting for you on the other thread :)
Appears to be two angles
a) I want to know what the issue is in case something needs to be sorted.
b) The rest wanna get you on a better workflow...
 
So two pronged approach :)

Cheers and thanks..

I'm about to look for the other thread.... Here's hoping I find it! ;-)
 
Thanks Alex...
 
keni
 

Anderton

Keni
My many thanks to all who listened and helped me on the path of discovery... I am grateful to you all!
 
Now if I had as good a solution for zooming I could be somewhat happy! ;-)

You seem like a decent guy and we want to help!
 
Did you see my suggestions about zooming in your other thread? On a final mix I was doing today I would have gone insane without auto-zoom. Or at least still be mixing it because of all the time I would have spent zooming and re-sizing...

Hi Craig...
 
I'm still trying to find your zoom suggestions... any chance you could tell me the thread title and page.... or a link?
 
Looking towards a better future!
 
Thanks...
Keni