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2013/12/07 20:35:34
Fabio Rubato
Hey. Trying to setup Audacity to record compositions in Sonar X3 in real time. I want to add some other real time sounds as opposed to just exporting the comp as a wave. I used to be able to do this when using my old Creative Elite Pro sound card. Now that I'm using the Quad - which is great and doesn't give me any BSOD anymore - I'm unable to configure Audacity to work - I'm using 2.0.5 version which is apparently the latest.
 
I have 3 audio host options: MME, Windows Direct Sound and Windows WASAPI. I have my Quad linked via sp-dif, so I choose the playback and recording as Quad-capture 3-4, which is the sp-dif. 
 
Anyone out there know how to do this correctly, as I must be doing something wrong?
 
Thanks
2013/12/07 20:53:31
Guitarpima
It's not clear what your after.
 
First thing is to use ASIO drivers in your host DAWs.
 
Are Sonar and Audacity on the same computer? I don't understand why you would want to go from a Sonar project and bounce it to Audacity.
2013/12/07 21:17:59
Fabio Rubato
Hi. ASIO are selected. Audacity apparently doesn't use them, so other options need to be selected. Yes, both Sonar and Audacity are on the same computer. 
 
I want to record my comp in real time, so that I can add some addition real-time sounds. I don't think I can do that in Sonar...or I don't know how to do it.
 
 
2013/12/07 21:29:34
Stone House Studios
Hi there!
 
You can do a lot more with Sonar than with Audacity - especially if you are overdubbing on to yourself. You will need to learn how to use Sonar to get where you want to be, but you will be able to do more once you get there.
Try the tutorials first.
Brian
 
 
2013/12/07 21:51:03
Fabio Rubato
Okay, I've done quite a few tutes...always something new to learn. Here's what I want to do...I have a vocal wave and in Nectar 2, I want to use a harmony at specific but sometimes at different places...it's in real time, so I can't record that...at least I don't know how to. I mean I could use Melodyne and copy that wave section onto another track and then move the notes up a minor 3rd or whatever...lot of messing around, but that's one way. Or I can just press harmony minor 3rd in Nectar...easy and quick. That's what I use Audacity for on a final master track, which I then save for CD's, or convert to MP3 etc.
 
If there's a better way to do it, I'd like to know how? If there is a specific tute for this, then I'd be grateful to know.
 
Thanks
 
 
2013/12/07 22:47:18
DaddyV
Fabio, just record another track of YOU singing with yourself doing the harmony parts. This technic has worked wonders over the decades. 
2013/12/07 22:53:25
Fabio Rubato
Thanks Dv...umm, I should have said that the vocal is a wave vocal...not me singing, or rather attempting to sing. So the singer is not available to do such.
2013/12/07 23:13:54
DaddyV
OK, copy the vocal to a separate track, then use melodyne and move the blobs to create the harmony part! I would loop a phrase at a time till I get a desirable harmony.
2013/12/07 23:18:43
Cactus Music
Nectar seems to be a VST plug in. You just need to add it to Sonars plug in list. I'm guessing that it came with Audacity? so it will be in Audacity's plug in folder, point Sonars Plug in manager and it should work inside Sonar. Audacity is just a very basic program, Sonar is very powerful so focus on learning all it's features and forget about using Audacity until you do.
2013/12/08 01:21:45
Fabio Rubato
Dv...Yes, it looks like I'll have to that re the Melodyne approach.
 
CM, yes I'm using Nectar as a VST plug-in. 
 
I just want to record Sonar whilst it's playing back. What if I want to play a guitar/keyboard/scat vocally in real time? That's what I'm on about here.
 
Thanks for you input.
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