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2013/12/09 12:08:18
Sidroe
Audacity is still useful as a quick and dirty audio editor. I used it for years to strip audio off of youtube videos and make mp3s out of it. My phone is full of those! LOL!
2013/12/09 12:10:30
Sidroe
Fabio, there should be instructions in Sonar's help files to instruct you on how to properly setup an audio track. It seems like there are also a few video tutorials on YouTube about it as well. Let us know if you got her up and running. If not, we will try to help.
 
2013/12/10 02:31:49
Fabio Rubato
Yes thanks Sidroe, I'll play around with it and/or do some research. I did try to set up an audio track to record the rest of the tracks currently composed - I used to be able to do that as well with my Elite Pro Drivers - record what you hear - in Sonar as well as Audacity as I previously mentioned. However, the Quad-drivers don't seem to have that option, so I'll need to continue to figure it out.
 
Thanks for you offer of help.
 
Cheers
2013/12/10 08:28:23
Sidroe
Fabio, be sure you have all the tracks highlighted that you want to bounce. You have to highlight them even to export them. Any tracks not highlighted will not get bounced or exported. You will see the options to bounce or export all the tracks, what you hear will be one of those options in the dropdown list. Please, check the tutorials on YouTube even the ones for older products like X1 and X2 will be helpful to you at this point. Cakewalk has it's own channel in YouTube.
2013/12/13 20:30:30
Fabio Rubato

Yes, thanks Sidroe. I have an older X2 'complete' tute, which I had a look at last night. Seems I can do a live take over a bounce or even export, so I'm going to experiment with that. Ultimately I wanted to have a composition on one track and set up Stutter Edit on it and then use a midi track and play around with its effects...just for fun.
As an aside...I was listening to Flume do his thing after the Aria's here in Australia recently and on one occasion, he pulled out the highs of the entire track and you could clearly hear the audience. He gradually brought it all back and built the sound to a climax and then brought in his next quite powerful song. Do you know how this is done? Is it a high pass filter on say the master? I have heard a number of artists do this kind of thing and its quite a powerful live excitement thing which I'd like to learn.
 
2013/12/13 22:29:36
Splat
Sidroe
Audacity is still useful as a quick and dirty audio editor. I used it for years to strip audio off of youtube videos and make mp3s out of it. My phone is full of those! LOL!



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2013/12/14 02:38:43
Sanderxpander
Fabio Rubato

Yes, thanks Sidroe. I have an older X2 'complete' tute, which I had a look at last night. Seems I can do a live take over a bounce or even export, so I'm going to experiment with that. Ultimately I wanted to have a composition on one track and set up Stutter Edit on it and then use a midi track and play around with its effects...just for fun.As an aside...I was listening to Flume do his thing after the Aria's here in Australia recently and on one occasion, he pulled out the highs of the entire track and you could clearly hear the audience. He gradually brought it all back and built the sound to a climax and then brought in his next quite powerful song. Do you know how this is done? Is it a high pass filter on say the master? I have heard a number of artists do this kind of thing and its quite a powerful live excitement thing which I'd like to learn. 

If he took the highs OUT it would have been a low pass filter, not a high pass one. But while I haven't seen him perform, the Pioneer and X-One and other DJ-style mixers usually have a band pass filter instead. That means that the track also got thinner as the freqs came back up, leading to an extra climax when the bass kicks in on the new track.

You could try automating a band pass filter (e.g. the included BiFilter) on the master, but if you want to transition to a new track it's probably best to make a subgroup of one track and send all tracks and busses there, then send that subgroup buss to the master. Putting the filter on the subgroup buss means you keep the master clean which makes it easier to kick in the new track. Fading in some reverb or delay during the filter sweep can also help the effect.
2013/12/15 22:34:33
Fabio Rubato
Sanderxpander
Fabio Rubato

Yes, thanks Sidroe. I have an older X2 'complete' tute, which I had a look at last night. Seems I can do a live take over a bounce or even export, so I'm going to experiment with that. Ultimately I wanted to have a composition on one track and set up Stutter Edit on it and then use a midi track and play around with its effects...just for fun.As an aside...I was listening to Flume do his thing after the Aria's here in Australia recently and on one occasion, he pulled out the highs of the entire track and you could clearly hear the audience. He gradually brought it all back and built the sound to a climax and then brought in his next quite powerful song. Do you know how this is done? Is it a high pass filter on say the master? I have heard a number of artists do this kind of thing and its quite a powerful live excitement thing which I'd like to learn. 

If he took the highs OUT it would have been a low pass filter, not a high pass one. But while I haven't seen him perform, the Pioneer and X-One and other DJ-style mixers usually have a band pass filter instead. That means that the track also got thinner as the freqs came back up, leading to an extra climax when the bass kicks in on the new track.

You could try automating a band pass filter (e.g. the included BiFilter) on the master, but if you want to transition to a new track it's probably best to make a subgroup of one track and send all tracks and busses there, then send that subgroup buss to the master. Putting the filter on the subgroup buss means you keep the master clean which makes it easier to kick in the new track. Fading in some reverb or delay during the filter sweep can also help the effect.



Thanks for clearing that up...I'll look forward to trying out your suggestion.
 
Cheers
2013/12/16 09:08:48
Sidroe
Hi,Fabio. Been a while. Thankfully, I've had a couple of projects come in and been pretty busy. If you are using X2 you could use automation and RMix to get that sort of filter effect. There is a tutorial around somewhere about RMix. Either Sonar U or YouTube possibly. You just stick RMix into the track or buss, open, and move the target window around for desired effects.
2013/12/16 21:10:10
Fabio Rubato
Hi Sidroe. Glad to hear you're busy. I assume I'd be able to do the same re using RMix in X3. I haven't used RMix at all as I don't understand it - more homeplay - so I'll hunt around and tute myself up...sounds like another good way to achieve the desired effect and it's always good to be able to do something a couple of ways.
 
Thanks and all the best.
 
PS - uhh Sonar U?
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