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2013/12/15 20:09:59
jb101
cliffr
 
Probably not much help to you, other than to say that yes, copy and paste of envelopes is 100% accurate. But doesn't mean it's not easy to get it wrong.
 
Cheers - Cliff




+1
2013/12/15 23:38:13
sharke
swamptooth
Are you using jumps or ramps? Post a screenshot and I'll try to mimic. This is the kind of sitch i wish send on/off was automatable.



Here's a screenshot. 
 

2013/12/15 23:42:12
sharke
cliffr
sharke
Well Aim Assist gives me the exact position when I place the cursor, and it was exactly on the bar. I always have snap set to extreme, landmarks off.



Aim assist only reports the exact cursor position when snap is turned off. Otherwise, it reports what the "snap to" position would be.
 
Aim assist won't help you with snap turned on for pasting envelopes.
 
You need to be 100% accurate both selecting and pasting with automation, and it will paste exactly where you paste it.
 
I tested copy and paste of automation extensively, in Audio/Midi tracks AND Busses when X3 came out.
You can copy/paste envelopes between track types AND Busses, and I can reproduct 100% accurate results every time.
 
The only 2 things I can think of are;
1) Some inaccuracy of cursor placement in either the Copy operation, Paste operation, or placement of the clips.
2) Some snap option - like snap to Zero Crossing, an audio track only need be in view for this to have affect.
 
 
I assume from your description the envelope is on the Synth Audio trac, for the send level ?.
I copy / paste envelopes a lot and the only time they're out of place is when I put them there :-)
 
Probably not much help to you, other than to say that yes, copy and paste of envelopes is 100% accurate. But doesn't mean it's not easy to get it wrong.
 
Cheers - Cliff




 
You're right about Aim Assist, but snap was on and thus it was telling me the exact location that the cursor would land. I can confirm that the cursor was in exactly the right place by the M:B:T display in the control bar. I did the operation over and over making sure that the cursor was in the right place each time, but I still got the clicks. Re: snap to Zero crossing, that would only be relevant if I was automating the send on an audio track with audio clips, right? But this track is merely the output of a synth. Yes the envelope is for the send level. 
2013/12/15 23:45:45
sharke
mettelus
Sharke, I wanted to clarify something quick. When you copied/pasted special, did you verify the M:B:T for the paste? I have always considered this to be "tried and true" but your post is concerning me now.




Yeah the M:B:T in the paste special dialog shows exactly the position of the cursor, which is right at the start of a bar. 
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