Hello all
 
since noone bothered to look at my previous 2 post about this important issue (specially from cake people) , here goes round 2...  short version this time..
 
NR 1:  Click to isolate (clip promote)
 
when you click lower portion of a midi / audio clip in take lanes, it solos that clip and mutes the rest and this happens frequently when I accidentaly click on a lower part of clips and then Im lost with which clips I had manually muted.. gaaah!
 ( I know I can swith to move tool for temporarly disable "clip isolate"  but then I wont have all smart tools under move tool mode)
 
I can't find words how much I dislike this feature (bug!), or that its a default forced behavior in X3!!
 
PLEASE tell me there is an option for disable'ing this  
 
 
NR 2:  Mouse selection consistency
 
can we bring back the standard left mouse drag selection mode in sonar?
 
its clashing with melodyne everytime Im jumping to melodyne editor (docked) and sonar
sonar = right mouse
melodyne = left mouse (and pretty much every standard software)
 
 
but most important feature I guess is to let the user define what is a smart tool and not, dont force a new feature, let the user decide if its a smart tool or a workflow braker, If I dont like it then let me disable it in the settings menu...
 
 
 
more detailed posts:
 
NR 1: sonar x3 producer mouse click on midi/audio clip promote bug?? :
 
 
NR 2: mouse selection consistency problem (sonar X3b):
 
 
 
sorry if this got a little harsh post but if this wasnt important to me , I would not bother writing this...
 
 
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When you come off like this, it makes people hesitate to help or even pay attention to your actual problem. If you have a feature request, submit it.  If you have a genuine bug, report it.  It's nice that some of the cakewalk guys occasionally chime in, but this is mostly a user forum.  The problem with the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" rant is obviously , no product is perfect.  What you think of as the perfect workflow is not so pefect to the next person.  I do agree that when possible, there should be a way to give users an option, but I also know that sometimes that is not desirable or possible.  Things change and they are slowly embraced or discarded.  This is a fairly helpful forum, but the tantrum bit usually gets very little result.

to use the take lanes in x3 i suggest you look at the video by cakewalk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPi1BkBhEvE&feature=youtu.be
 
I have completed three projects..one with 20 piano takes, one with 14 vocal takes and 12 guitar takes and one with 9 vocal takes...and not once have i manually muted a take lane... 
 
I follow the process exactly as shown in the video..record your takes into lanes, split into manageable regions, audition them and promote to the comp track by hitting enter.

dubdisciple
When you come off like this, it makes people hesitate to help or even pay attention to your actual problem. If you have a feature request, submit it.  If you have a genuine bug, report it.  It's nice that some of the cakewalk guys occasionally chime in, but this is mostly a user forum.  The problem with the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" rant is obviously , no product is perfect.  What you think of as the perfect workflow is not so pefect to the next person.  I do agree that when possible, there should be a way to give users an option, but I also know that sometimes that is not desirable or possible.  Things change and they are slowly embraced or discarded.  This is a fairly helpful forum, but the tantrum bit usually gets very little result.

hey dubsiciple
 
I agree, that's why I had "PLEASE" and "sorry" :)
 
Im not the wine type but Im frustrated and desperate man, and trust me, I reported these two issues 5 weeks ago..
and If I only had an standard email reply with "hey, We'll look into it" from cake then I would be glad...
 

Mystic38
to use the take lanes in x3 i suggest you look at the video by cakewalk 
 
I have completed three projects..one with 20 piano takes, one with 14 vocal takes and 12 guitar takes and one with 9 vocal takes...and not once have i manually muted a take lane... 
 
I follow the process exactly as shown in the video..record your takes into lanes, split into manageable regions, audition them and promote to the comp track by hitting enter.

Hey Mystic38
 
thanks for the video link, watched it now
 
comping on take lanes is cool and good for what it does but that doesnt mean I want it on always, but rather switch to this mode when I need to... because as it is now, its always on by default for midi/audio clips and that is my problem, specially when navigating thru my project with many midi tracks and many take lanes and clicking to navigate my pleayhead etc..
 
I guess this forces me to use less take lanes OR no take lanes at all....
 

Melodyne should have a cakewalk mode then that reverses the left and right button ;) 

nargile
when you click lower portion of a midi / audio clip in take lanes, it solos that clip and mutes the rest and this happens frequently when I accidentaly click on a lower part of clips and then Im lost with which clips I had manually muted.. gaaah!

 
Until your feature request for new/customizable Smart Tool functionality comes through, Ctrl+Z is Undo.
 

can we bring back the standard left mouse drag selection mode in sonar?

 
Not sure I fully understand this, unless you mean "Lasso"...? Dragging in the top of a clip with left mouse button selects, though admittedly the vertical zone where you get the Select tool is microscopic when a lane is collapsed. That could use improvement.
 
 

nargile

Mystic38
to use the take lanes in x3 i suggest you look at the video by cakewalk 
 
I have completed three projects..one with 20 piano takes, one with 14 vocal takes and 12 guitar takes and one with 9 vocal takes...and not once have i manually muted a take lane... 
 
I follow the process exactly as shown in the video..record your takes into lanes, split into manageable regions, audition them and promote to the comp track by hitting enter.

Hey Mystic38
 
thanks for the video link, watched it now
 
comping on take lanes is cool and good for what it does but that doesnt mean I want it on always, but rather switch to this mode when I need to... because as it is now, its always on by default for midi/audio clips and that is my problem, specially when navigating thru my project with many midi tracks and many take lanes and clicking to navigate my pleayhead etc..
 
I guess this forces me to use less take lanes OR no take lanes at all....
 

To turn off Comping, right click the record button then pick something other than comping. It's fairly easy to turn off and on.

CakeAlexS
Melodyne should have a cakewalk mode then that reverses the left and right button ;) 

hehe, nice try, ok sure, Im all for it but only if cakewalk manages to convert every audio/video/2d/3d software makers to move to right mouse drag selection mode :)

brundlefly

nargile
when you click lower portion of a midi / audio clip in take lanes, it solos that clip and mutes the rest and this happens frequently when I accidentaly click on a lower part of clips and then Im lost with which clips I had manually muted.. gaaah!

 
Until your feature request for new/customizable Smart Tool functionality comes through, Ctrl+Z is Undo.
 

can we bring back the standard left mouse drag selection mode in sonar?

 
Not sure I fully understand this, unless you mean "Lasso"...? Dragging in the top of a clip with left mouse button selects, though admittedly the vertical zone where you get the Select tool is microscopic when a lane is collapsed. That could use improvement.
 
 

true, ctrl+z is king
 
sorry, I ment left mouse selection mode that was in previous sonar versions...  which was left mouse drag selection on several midi/audio clips, today its reversed    LMB ---> <--- RMB switched places
 
leftmouse selection is only acting like a lasso, wich don't select whole midi clips... only the selected part (lasso)