I use Asio4all when my laptop is on my lap and Octa capture drivers when it is in the studio.
 
No issues that I have noticed.....however I will uninstall Asio4all just to see if any of my other issues that appear, on the surface, to be non driver related are mitigated.
 
Thanks for the heads up all.
 
JR
 
 

John
You are aware that its a wrapper that uses MME or WDM drivers as its connection to the audio device? 
 
 
But it is working with stock drivers. It has to. 

 
Just because ASIO4ALL accesses part of the WDM system doesn't, at least in my mind, classify it as a just a wrapper.
It's doing more that just adding an ASIO interface to the stock drivers.  If that's all it did I don't think that there wouldn't be any benefit to its usage or in some cases conflict with it's installation.
 
On my laptop - for whatever reason with ASIO4ALL makes the stock Realtek drivers usable, without it they are not.
I have not tried using X3 directly with WDM, but in previous Sonar versions using the Realtek drivers directly didn't work (too unstable).
 
...Steven
 

OK I take it you didn't read the post above where I post what the ASIO 4 All site says about it. 
 
The term wrapper is mine because I think it best describes what it is does. You can say its more than a wrapper but how does that help us understand it better?

John
OK I take it you didn't read the post above where I post what the ASIO 4 All site says about it. 
 
The term wrapper is mine because I think it best describes what it is does. You can say its more than a wrapper but how does that help us understand it better?

 
He says what it does but does not how it goes about it on the site. "It uses WDM Kernel-Streaming and sometimes even more sophisticated methods to achieve its objectives." is very open ended. and doesn't tell us much.  I will fully admit that I do not understand why it seems to function as more than a wrapper but for whatever reason it tends to work when WDM on its own does not. With X1 and X2 I could not get sound to play even for a second with WDM driver. Have you ever tried to use WDM driver with a realtek card? 

John
OK I take it you didn't read the post above where I post what the ASIO 4 All site says about it. 
 
The term wrapper is mine because I think it best describes what it is does. You can say its more than a wrapper but how does that help us understand it better?

Hi John,
 
I thought I had read the posts above yours, but it's possible that I took your post(s) out of context.
 
In terms of understanding it better - that really depends on the level of discussion and context.
For example if someone is complaining about their laptop audio responding by posting  'try ASIO4ALL, it's a WDM wrapper that may help you' would be entirely appropriate. Not entirely accurate but it gets the point across and the recipient probably doesn't care for the details anyway.
But if the discussion is on the driver itself then details make a difference in clarifying things.
 
 
Anyway, not trying to be a hard @ss.  
 
Peace out.
...Steven

dubdisciple

John
OK I take it you didn't read the post above where I post what the ASIO 4 All site says about it. 
 
The term wrapper is mine because I think it best describes what it is does. You can say its more than a wrapper but how does that help us understand it better?

 
He says what it does but does not how it goes about it on the site. "It uses WDM Kernel-Streaming and sometimes even more sophisticated methods to achieve its objectives." is very open ended. and doesn't tell us much.  I will fully admit that I do not understand why it seems to function as more than a wrapper but for whatever reason it tends to work when WDM on its own does not. With X1 and X2 I could not get sound to play even for a second with WDM driver. Have you ever tried to use WDM driver with a realtek card? 

That is an unfair question. 
 
 

Lol. I admit..no one in their right mind should use a realtek card with sonar. I never claimed to be in my right mind!

dubdisciple
Lol. I admit..no one in their right mind should use a realtek card with sonar. I never claimed to be in my right mind!

I use the WASAPI driver with my Realtek Win7 laptop.  Not great, but it works.
 

dubdisciple

John
OK I take it you didn't read the post above where I post what the ASIO 4 All site says about it. 
 
The term wrapper is mine because I think it best describes what it is does. You can say its more than a wrapper but how does that help us understand it better?

 
I will fully admit that I do not understand why it seems to function as more than a wrapper but for whatever reason it tends to work when WDM on its own does not. With X1 and X2 I could not get sound to play even for a second with WDM driver. 

and that is why it is so popular. It even worked with some older line 6 hardware I had when WDM would not work at all in Sonar. It is not just a driver for Sound Blaster or Realtek cards
 

Funny. My current laptop can't stand a bar of ASiO 4all. It uses a nVidea HD chip. Only MME works.
My pre jobs lippy used the same chips et and driver but it wouldn't work with MME, WASAPI or Web, but Di with A4all. Go figure.