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2011/04/04 23:23:13
KGunn

Hello people,

Im new here but i have searched and could not find a relevant answer, keep in mind that Ive only had my V Studio for about 3 days (Nice!), and nice portion of that time has been trying to figure out WTFIGO with this issue. I get around pretty good on this thing but, this has thrown me and keep finding myself distracted by it.

Its probably some minor oversite but its large enough for "me" to post about it..   So here is the question.

Why is it that no matter what i do, rather it be a new project or a old project... My console always seems to link the master fader to the first bus i create.  Now im not talking about the signal route, im talking about the actual movement of the faders..
 
For example if i create a Drums bus to the master fader, then the master fader to the Main out, the drum bus will move my master fader and vice versa.. it seems that it only happens with the first bus.. Cause if i create another it moves independently from the other busses.. and one more thing is that when this happens the bus and master faders on Sonars console view doesnt move together, only on the V Studio Console.

So my question is... Is the First Bus always linked to the Master fader of the Console?... is there a setting that im missing?...  or is this just normal operation that im clearly not understanding?

Running:
WinXP 32bit
Quad
4Mb
Sonar 8.5.0.141

Thanks in advance.
Gunn
2011/04/05 18:27:24
KGunn
Wow... Nobody?.... 20 reads?.... Well can someone direct me to a forum where members Do respond?

Thanks
2011/04/06 04:55:55
Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk]
The Console's Master Fader is linked to SONAR's first bus. This is intended so that it always controls the Master Bus, so its typically best practice to have your Master Bus in SONAR set as the first, or left-most bus.

Of course, you can get creative and move around the busses if you want that fader to control a different bus, or just switch the faders to Bus mode.

HTH

2011/04/06 15:35:13
don4777
You can also drag the WAI indicator on the Sonar display to whichever bus you want the Master Fader on the V700-C to control.  That way you can control any bus you want regardless of whether or not it is the first bus.

The WAI indicator is the "Where AM I" colored bar to the left of the bus (or track) info in the Track View.

Don
2011/04/07 01:24:07
KGunn
OKay!.. and i have another question about the faders, but imma do my diligence, and search pryer to complaining... With that said id like to thank you guys for actually answering all of my questions on the subject, & some

Cheers!

2011/04/07 14:19:38
Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk]
Feel free to ask. What's up?
2011/04/08 10:36:49
KGunn
Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk]

Feel free to ask. What's up?

Ive search this forum, google, and You tube ect... Yet i have not been able to find anything related to my issue.

That issue being the Faders, whenever i push on a random fader the fader kind of acts as if its motor is slow to react.. It kind of feels like the faders are in automation, and the automation is going in the opposite direction that im pushing the fader. Yet i have never used automation on the 700 to date (less than a week).

So my question to you guys is, have anyone else experienced this, and if so was it a setting that needed to be tweaked, normal operation (which would be a real problem) or do i just own a faulty V Studio 700?s.

Thanks,
Gunn



2011/04/09 13:09:23
stratrat1
Put your finger on top of the fader, don't push it from the side... I experienced that myself and found that the faders want to make sure your not hitting them by mistake...If that makes sense
2011/04/09 23:21:55
KGunn
stratrat1


Put your finger on top of the fader, don't push it from the side... I experienced that myself and found that the faders want to make sure your not hitting them by mistake...If that makes sense


Thanks for the reply Stray,

And it makes perfect sense, plus it would probably be a great ON/OFF feature for Mixing when your in your final tweaks with no major level changes taking place, but I cant see this being any kind of overall feature, This thing is meant to be used for a smooth but fast and productive work flow, not the carefulness of your touch.. But hey, you may be right, It could be a setting that I just need to turn off.... Off Immediately. Its discouraging when your in the middle or monitoring something and your faders are stuck, or hesitant to move... I keep finding myself trying to find some kind of fader calibration setting that fixes the issue (very time consuming) and what am i suppost to do? ... stop looking for a solution?.. i might stay away from it untill i get a chance to get CS on the phone.

or

Hopefully one of these CW Gurus will be able to chime in and ease this V Studio Rockie

thanks again Strat
Gunn
2011/04/10 07:34:10
don4777
I think you are just seeing the fussiness of touch sensitive faders (or devices in general).  The fader has to sense your touch.  This is going to vary based on the conductivity of your skin, humidity, pressure, etc.  Dry skin/low humidity=less sensitivity.  High humidity, moist skin=more sensitivity.  For guitar players it is common that the heavily calloused fingers of the fretting hand isn't as good at triggering the sensitivity.  I have had several touch sensitive control surfaces - VS-700, Mackie, AlphaTrack - and they all exhibited this exact same behavior.  A good solid touch of the fader is the best approach although I have heard some people that have tried hand lotion to keep their hands moisturized.  I have never been that bothered by the problem to try it.

Good luck.

Don
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