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2015/09/05 08:27:02
williamcopper
People inevitably find fault with my mixing and handling of reverb, so working again on that, and on getting realistic sounding string sections out of all the expensive string libraries I've accumulated.  

Very brief excerpt, just the violin parts from the orchestra piece posted earlier:  
 
https://soundcloud.com/williamcopper/0565-01-violins-02-25

Also uses some of the sonar plugins at least slightly better, and eliminates panning by midi in favor of shifting the audio a bit.
 
(original full orchestra, before this recent work) https://soundcloud.com/wi...per/moses_introduction
2015/09/05 10:37:05
Wookiee
That does not sound bad, how do you apply Reverb?  Do you apply it to each audio track or do you use a "master reverb" i.e. a single reverb on a bus that you send all your instruments to in a balanced manor.
 
 
2015/09/05 20:24:15
williamcopper
Thanks for the help Wookiee; I'm been using a combination -- since everything is output from sample libraries, it depends on the library.   Where possible I route similar sounds to an aux bus with a single reverb; for some libraries there is already enough reverb in the sounds produced; for others I use per-track.   On this one, two musical lines, twelve midi tracks,  three libraries -- the Berlin Strings and Vienna Chamber Strings are both pretty dry so they went together into a Virtual soundstage reverb and placement, while the solo strings, dry originally, I had modified to use a Kontakt 'concert hall' convolution reverb, so the four tracks with that library went only to the sonar "Channel Tools" plug in for some shifting of the stereo.     You'd think I'd be better at this having done it so long, but I'm probably hampered by my 'studio' being just a messy room with a couple of good speakers perched on boxes behind my big computer monitors.
2015/09/06 13:28:26
Wookiee
I find when applying a master reverb to tracks with reverb as part of the voice the trick is to turn up the send until I can hear the reverb then back it off a click or two.  Then the natural reverb from the instrument creates a sense of space for that voice, but the master reverb creates a space for the whole.
2015/09/07 23:57:58
williamcopper
Thank you, working with that idea now ..
2015/09/08 00:13:51
synkrotron
I have even started experimenting with turning off any reverb that comes with an instrument (if that's possible) and routing to a reverb buss. And, as Wookiee suggests, I back it off quite a bit. But turn it off and you can really hear the difference...
 
Nice bit of programming on that violin section by the way
2015/09/08 01:04:24
williamcopper
Here's the new mix, full orchestra and chorus, using wookie's idea and also venturing into some clean-up eq ... seems clearer to me, though there is still a lot going on orchestrally.
 
https://soundcloud.com/wi...per/moses_introduction
2015/09/08 01:41:09
synkrotron
This is sounding good to me William, although I'm no expert...
2015/09/08 11:51:18
Wookiee
That definitely sounds better William more cohesive sense of space.
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