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2013/12/07 00:36:19
scook
Yes, running the advanced install will give you the option to install individual plug-ins such as R-Mix. Make sure to deselect everything else when the component dialog is displayed.
2013/12/07 12:17:51
Sidroe
Has anyone had experience with R-Mix running in X3c? I never used it in X2a but I do have a few hip-hop clients that like to use these kind of toys. X3c is running so good I'm afraid to screw around with it too much.
2013/12/07 12:21:28
Splat
This should be a separate thread, it could be a good topic. Anyway I tried R-Mix, I just couldn't get it to work for me. The fact it is no longer with X3 speaks bundles to me (did you see what I did there?  ). Why not Melodyne?
2013/12/07 12:50:06
scook
R-Mix works fine in X3c.
 
Not sure how Melodyne replaces R-Mix, maybe you are thinking of V-Vocal. I would imagine the reason V-Vocal and R-Mix are not included with X3 has more to do with the expense of licensing than any other consideration. They are Roland products.
2013/12/07 13:06:29
Splat
Well Melodyne can remove vocals from a track for instance, and R-Mix is supposed to do that. After studying the videos etc I couldn't get that to work particularly well, but with Melodyne (Editor version) works. In fact I couldn't really see any advantage R-Mix had over other plugins. Also R-Mix's engine often crashed (had to stop and start the plugin often). Maybe I do it a disservice but I came to view it as crapware. Also I don't see any use for V-Vocal nowadays with Melodyne around.
 
And yes makes sense if R-Mix wasn't transferred as part of the Gibson deal.
 
(sorry I sense a thread hijack ).
2013/12/07 16:41:28
mettelus
CakeAlexS
Well Melodyne can remove vocals from a track for instance, and R-Mix is supposed to do that.


I have used R-Mix often to remove vocals from final (commercial) recordings and it works very well for this purpose. Some songs have the lead vocals panned slightly, and R-Mix allows for visual adjustment of this.
 
One technique I have found that works well with this specific application is being as precise as possible... and this can often be achieved best by 2-3 successive iterations of R-Mix with smaller, overlapping target areas, rather than only one R-Mix instance with too large of a target area (that can deaden the "non-vocals" on you).
2013/12/07 18:32:01
Sidroe
I played around with using R-Mix as a filter on some tracks. It's pretty interesting using it that way. You can write in the automation to move the target box around in the window. I think there is a tutorial in Sonar U. that shows it being used this way on a drum track.
2013/12/07 19:04:00
rkl122
Just a quick thank you to scook!  It worked, just as you say.  I'd forgotten the custom install permits choosing a single or any combo of all the plugins in that version.  You do have to wait for all the files to unpack, but apparently nothing else got installed except an X2 uninstaller and some X2 links in the start menu (which don't work of course.) 
 
Sorry OP for hopping on your thread.  Maybe our combined questions will help future searchers.   -Ron
 
scook
Yes, running the advanced install will give you the option to install individual plug-ins such as R-Mix. Make sure to deselect everything else when the component dialog is displayed.




2013/12/08 15:12:50
Soft Enerji
rkl122
Sorry OP for hopping on your thread.  Maybe our combined questions will help future searchers.   -Ron
 

No worries at all. My question was answered anyway. I installed 7 on my laptop, found what I was looking for and uninstalled it again. Tell ya what though, 7 looks so dated now :-)
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