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2013/12/03 02:08:21
Sir Les
if you have tb or tb2 already on PC...you can buy a firewire adapter for TB and use firewire audio cards that support it ...I believe.....as said above  with another poster here on this thread...and adapters will come out for other things I am sure, the more demand comes out for tb Pc products...to the manufactures...More people are posting video on youtube than ever before...so video editing is increasing...and apple Knows it...so their next mac  desk top machine coming in 2014 I have read, is a smoker....
2013/12/03 02:12:26
Splat
Sir Les
but here is a PC BOARD SPORTING TB2
 
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7230/




Approx 3 months ago - which just goes to show still early days. Interfaces take longer than most technologies to adopt.
2013/12/03 02:29:42
Sir Les
well usb and usb 3 was adopted pretty quick, because it was pushed on the public By a Giant...if the public pushes the manufactures, who help the giant be a giant,...the giant will change or get tied up by the little people....forcing change from the other side..., I think the mass effect of numbers should prevail over the giant eventually giving up the hold on usb3 it is not going to get any faster ...and something already is...(.Gulliver's travels ref.)..tb2 .cause it is faster by far over usb3...and one can put a lot devices on it at once....supposedly...I saw a Avid protools tb1 show, which used a  apple mac book pro laptop...(reasons unknown)...and man was it fast loading libraries from tb1 drives....I can't imagine tb2
 
That said if change is going to occur, more people have to ask the manufactures if they are going to support it, and start making it be.
2013/12/03 10:21:42
Grem
Alex let me state that I am referring to an average PC like I am typing on. It came with Vista and now is at Win8.1
 
It's on that kind of machine that I am saying TB won't ever "take off" on.
 
You say a lot of truth that I don't doubt and agree with. Like interfaces being sllloooowww to be adapted by the masses.
 
I agree with Sir Les in that USB was adapted quickly, and it's all over. Correct me if I'm wrong here, but aren't all cell phones (besides apple) today made with a USB port? It's not just on the PC anymore. It's all over! Not because MS wanted it, it's cheap and easy to implement.
 
And MS always has tried to make USB adaption easy.
 
Remember RamBuss. It was the better and faster memory. It just didn't take off because of price. Back then I remember saying I wasn't going to pay $200 for the same memory I could get at $100. What was the performance difference? Didn't effect me that much in what I wanted to do. I went with the cheaper stuff. This is another reason why I'm saying that TB won't be "taking off" on the Windows based PC anytime soon, if ever.
2013/12/03 10:29:59
Splat
'And MS always has tried to make USB adaption easy.'


Not with NT4. Drivers never worked well or were not provided. In fact the scenario didn't change much until Win2000 sp1 (from memory). So it was a while before USB became properly mainstream, or at least worked well in windows .
2013/12/03 10:36:59
Paul P
CakeAlexS
'And MS always has tried to make USB adaption easy.'

Not with NT4. Drivers never worked well or were not provided. In fact the scenario didn't change much until Win2000 sp1 (from memory). So it was a while before USB became properly mainstream, or at least worked well in windows .



My first Dell desktop is still lying around somewhere and still works.  It had 2 USB ports, but the windows version on it (3.1?) had not yet heard of them, so they couldn't be used.  I recently wanted to transfer some stuff from it and couldn't.  No usb or cd+w on the source and no floppy on the destination.
 
2013/12/03 11:35:03
jscomposer
SuperG
The majority of its customers won't make much use of Thunderbolt excepting techie types, i.e. DAW and Video editors, who are a smaller market than they seem to think.




I thought this as well...until acquiring a new Mac recently. The Thunderbolt allows me to add Gigabit ethernet, multiple displays, and lightning fast external SSD's that can daisy chain without degradation in data transfer. Thunderbolt drives (especially SSD), are a dream come true for film compsers who use large orchestral teplates with numerous resource-hungry VI's. I have seen quite a few ASUS laptops lately with Thunderbolt.
2013/12/03 11:38:50
Sir Les
Allen and heath have adopted it...They make good stuff ...And I can use an adapter for the desk I have, and it is still being updated with drivers for win8.
NoT sure about the other brand names though.
 
So it is moving in a direction with pro gear.
Consumer gear...well that is another story....I guess AlexS knows more about, and that is the most popular and used here I would imagine, that need addressing....But it is moving in a direction with pro gear.....and that is a great thing!....might take a bit before the cheaper audio consumer market takes the R&D technologies made and tested by the big boys...and import that to something that will be Low and mid consumer grade.
2013/12/03 11:45:02
Sir Les
Paul P
CakeAlexS
'And MS always has tried to make USB adaption easy.'

Not with NT4. Drivers never worked well or were not provided. In fact the scenario didn't change much until Win2000 sp1 (from memory). So it was a while before USB became properly mainstream, or at least worked well in windows .



My first Dell desktop is still lying around somewhere and still works.  It had 2 USB ports, but the windows version on it (3.1?) had not yet heard of them, so they couldn't be used.  I recently wanted to transfer some stuff from it and couldn't.  No usb or cd+w on the source and no floppy on the destination.
 




I believe win 95c introduced  usb from my experience.
2013/12/03 11:59:19
StarTekh
You will see Thunderbolt doing just about everything..storage for you media center and your tv....multy monitors for video and yes audio interfaces, moving mass data in the blink of a eye Thunderbolt 2 is out 20 Gbit/s...and Thunderbolt 3 is not far off...on a final note: people look'd at me funny when I bought a firewire interface..Its served me 10 years with out a glitch ... bring it on !!
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