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2013/11/24 22:26:03
swamptooth
CakeAlexS
 
With Dimension Pro it's always confusing. I look at my Dimension Pro SFZ folder and it it seems not all the samples are listed (even after pressing F5 in the program browser). 



Dimension pro's browser shows dimension pro programs (.prog files), not sfz files.  
to load a sfz file into dimesion pro, use the element loader and browse to C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\Dimension Pro\multisamples (that should be the default).  
a handful of the sfz files aren't loaded into any dp programs.  
be warned, using a sfz file made for dimension in sforzando or alchemy will not load of the additional elements like dp's lfos or filters and neither sforzando nor alchemy implement the full sfz specification, so you will probably eventually get a crash or freeze. 
 
for example, waveguide and oscillator functions that are part of many dp sfz files...
http://ariaengine.com/forums/index.php?p=/discussion/5806/questions-about-wavetable-oscillator-in-sforzandoaria/p1
2013/11/24 22:36:27
Splat
Thanks Arvid...
 
Sounds about right...
You just reminded me about the Dimension Pro reset by renaming programs.lst and restarting Sonar.... Thanks...
2013/11/24 22:55:53
dubdisciple
Thanks swamp. I kinda figured it might bite me at some point
2013/11/25 01:29:25
arachnaut
CakeAlexS
Thanks Arvid...
 
Sounds about right...
You just reminded me about the Dimension Pro reset by renaming programs.lst and restarting Sonar.... Thanks...




Function key F5 also rebuilds the program list for DP and Rapture.
 
2013/11/25 12:57:57
AlChuck
Thanks for all the replies! 
I guess I missed something over the last decade or so. I've got a bunch of Sound Font files (sf2) but don't really know what sfz is. I'll have to do a bit of Googling and reading.
I'm not on front of my DAW at the moment, so I can't check, but I think my sfz says just sfz, not sfz+. I tried fiddling with the mode setting but it didn't help.
I'll check out alchemy and sforzando. 
2013/11/25 13:15:32
Anderton
Great tips!! This thread is more like "Solutions for SFZ"
2013/12/04 13:37:02
AlChuck
Just to follow up and "close" this thread, an update:
 
I looked and saw I had only sfz on my system. So I downloaded and installed sfz+ from the Cakewalk store. It has no trouble loading up Sound Fonts as long as you set the mode to PR32 (the default mode gives you a "not enough memory to load Sound Font" message).
 
(What are these modes in sfz and sfz+, anyway? I found this information in a preview chapter of a book,
Cakewalk Synthesizers: From Presets to Power User by Simon Cann, which I found on the Delmar Cengage Learning website. I can't post links until I've posted two more times so I'll come back and add it later. If you google "sfz modes" it comes up at the top of the list. Looks like it might be a good book to have; it's available on Amazon.)
 
In my googling about the sfz format, I found an free editor that can be used to convert Sound Fonts into sfz files called sfZed. Again, can't post a URL  but if you google for "sfz editor" it'll come up.
 
So I'm a happy camper -- if I want to use any of my old Sound Fonts, now I can again.
 
2013/12/04 14:31:26
dubdisciple
be careful with sf2 to sfz conversions.  Remember, sf2 was originally designed for Emu/creative cards and sometimes there are glitches when converted to sfz. FYI I believe several of the SFZ players convert as well.
 
I have the book you speak of .  It is a great reference to have the author is extremely helpful.  Several chapters of the book can be had for free on his site.  He is open about the fact  that these supplemental chapters are available.  Very comprehensive chapters on sfz  in general. http://noisesculpture.com/cakewalk-synthesizers
2013/12/04 16:33:36
AlChuck
I think I'm blessed now, so here's the link to the sfZed site:
 
http://audio.clockbeat.com/sfZed.html
2013/12/04 17:13:46
dubdisciple
I'll check it oit. Thanks!
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