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  • X1 User interface looks cluttered! (p.16)
2011/01/27 19:40:26
SteveStrummerUK
 
X1 doesn't have a Maximise/Minimise icon or icons per se 
 
If you've resized the height of a track manually, all that the new 'arrow' icon does is toggle between Minimise and Restore - there is no Maximise option at all.
 
To maximise a track height to fit the window, you have to double click in an empty area of the pane.
 
However, this is not strictly a 'toggle' option - whether you double click to maximise from the minimised state or from the (manually set) restore state, when you double click again, the track always returns to the 'restore' height.
 
If you've not seen this behaviour, check it out - I'm guessing the replacement of the traditional minimise and maximise icons (which do toggle as expected in S8.5) with just one icon was incorparated to save space?
 

 
 
 
In S8.5, the two separate icons work exactly as in other Windows programs:
 

 
 
 
 
Incidentally (and unless the forum software has changed the image dimensions ), my two screenshots also give an exact comparision of the minimum sizes of a track in X1 and in S8.5 that can show all the available information excluding the FX bin.
 
Again, try it yourselves - S8.5 seems to rearrange the information much more 'intelligently' than X1 when you resize the track pane - the FX bin disappears much sooner in 8.5. This behaviour is consistent whether you resize the track pane vertically as well as horizontally.
2011/01/27 19:42:15
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2011/01/27 19:46:28
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2011/01/27 19:50:45
SteveStrummerUK
mike_mccue


Good work bapu! 

LOL Mike, I guess I need to change my avatar
 
 
Steve
 
 
 
 
(Strummy)
 
 
2011/01/27 20:05:26
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2011/01/27 20:14:09
lorneyb2
I am not sure how many of you are actually using the Track inspector but it has the potential for actually gaining space once you start using it.  It has actually taken a while to make use of it but now that I have adjusted to it I can operate with 1/2" less space occupied for Inspct and TV Header compared to 8.5.(just brought up last project I worked on in both) 5.5" in X1 6" in 8.5.

All the functions are there including polarity etc with the exception of the edit filter and velocity+ so I can operate with only the track name and edit filter  showing.  I also am able to set a narrower track height to avoid minimizing/max toggles so can have more tracks visible at a time.

Initially it was a pain to make the change but it is now starting to become second nature to look for the info in a new spot and has actually improved work flow.

May be a different approach to how  I worked in 8.5 but I think it is more efficient for me. 
2011/01/27 20:30:45
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2011/01/27 20:31:43
brundlefly
I am not sure how many of you are actually using the Track inspector but it has the potential for actually gaining space once you start using it.

 
Thing is, the 8.5 Track Inspector offered the same things if you wanted it; but you weren't forced to used it because of the ineffecient use of realestate and elimination of buttons from the track headers in X1.
 
2011/01/27 21:27:57
John
brundlefly



I am not sure how many of you are actually using the Track inspector but it has the potential for actually gaining space once you start using it.

 
Thing is, the 8.5 Track Inspector offered the same things if you wanted it; but you weren't forced to used it because of the ineffecient use of realestate and elimination of buttons from the track headers in X1.
 


I am one that wished for and asked for a more useful track inspector. Now I have it. As for the notion of "inefficient real estate", I was very unhappy with the need to have a track header open to a humongous size simply because the inspector had very few useful widgets in it. This is more aimed at MIDI but the notion applies to an audio track too. What I have now with X1 is the ability to move the dual track inspector to my other display monitor freeing up a lot of space in the track view. Now I have all the info and control I need plus I don't need to have large headers in order to adjust something. Best of both worlds for me. I suppose it all depends on what one finds useful. Yet I can't see how a better track inspector is a bad thing. BTW you do not have to have it showing and a simple "I" press brings it into view or not even on a laptop. 

An objection to it seems very odd to me no matter how one tries to put it.
2011/01/27 22:38:46
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