Hey,
 
I'm a big fan of the T-Racks Brickwall Limiter and am wondering how the ProChannel Concrete Limiter compares.
 
I'm trying to get as close as possible to working entirely with Sonar software and using less third-party plug-ins.
 
Your thoughts?
 
Thanks.

I have the CL and actually use it in series with Ozone. I find the CL to be very transparent and somewhat punchy which is why I use it in addition to Ozone. I think it's a great limiter! Highly recommended!!

I had been using the Sonnox Oxford Limiter for a long time. Swore by it. Couldn't find anything else I could say even came close to matching it.
When I made the jump to X3, it didn't want to work right, caused crashes, etc. Also, I decided no iLok ever again. so, I started searching and tried about everything I could find that did not use iLok. I had it built up in my mind that something that was more expensive HAD to be better that anything less expensive.
As it turned out, I found the Concrete Limiter filled all my needs. And with no iLok! 
The Limiter no.6 by VladG (a freebie) was VERY good, also but, the Concrete Limiter is so handy right there in my Pro Channel so, that's what I ended up with and am quite happy with it. 

I trust the CL more than I do the T racks one. I have Ozone 4 and Tracks. To me the CL is a great limiter. 

rodreb
I had been using the Sonnox Oxford Limiter for a long time. Swore by it. Couldn't find anything else I could say even came close to matching it.When I made the jump to X3, it didn't want to work right, caused crashes, etc. Also, I decided no iLok ever again. so, I started searching and tried about everything I could find that did not use iLok. I had it built up in my mind that something that was more expensive HAD to be better that anything less expensive.As it turned out, I found the Concrete Limiter filled all my needs. And with no iLok! The Limiter no.6 by VladG (a freebie) was VERY good, also but, the Concrete Limiter is so handy right there in my Pro Channel so, that's what I ended up with and am quite happy with it. 

I use Concrete Limiter on all my tracks to limit peaks (duh), but I'm also using it as a compressor. Is this wrong? Should I be using a separate dedicated plug in for this? Seems to do what I want it to do, but looking for advice from the wealth of knowledge on this forum.

I have a sophisticated electronics lab in my house (I'm an Analog Electronics Engineering consultant) with Lecroy scope, network analyzer, spectrum analyzer, etc.. and intend to characterize the various plugins. (A roundtuit)

Walt

I use CL too. One at the master bus for protecting my speakers and my ears. Channel inserts on drums and piano. Add some nice punch (or shall I say beef) to the instrument. Love it!

I just purchased the CL today since CW ran a 50% off Pro Channel stuff.  Been wanting to get it for a while...but was waiting for it to go on sale.
 
I have Sony Wave Hammer Surround which came with Sony Vegas Pro.  And although it's 64 bit...it's a DX plugin, or at least it shows up in my DX plugs in Sonar.  It actually does a pretty good job....but hey...I wanted the CL so I got it :) .

Dave King
Hey,
 
I'm a big fan of the T-Racks Brickwall Limiter and am wondering how the ProChannel Concrete Limiter compares.
 
I'm trying to get as close as possible to working entirely with Sonar software and using less third-party plug-ins.
 
Your thoughts?
 
Thanks.

I'm fortunate to own both and feel that whilst they are similar, they have slightly different "flavours" of limiting.
 
It's difficult to be objective about this stuff.
 
What I will say is that I tend to use the PCCL on tracks and the T-Racks on busses
 
Hope this helps Dave.

CL has become my go to limiter. Before it came out I really had to struggle with either a third party limiter or use Ozone on the master buss. Before processors got powerful enough, Ozone was really taking a bite out of my CPU power. Boost 11 just wasn't delivering a good enough sound. It was fine at lower levels but started sounding grainy when you really pushed it. CL came along. I grabbed it out of desperation and it has been a mainstay ever since. The bass button was a godsend for some of my rnb clients. It still tends to suffer a little when pushed hard but seems to have a lot more headroom than Boost 11. 

CL gets heavy use here too, and its my go to Limiter.