Totally agree Dean.

Razorwit


Yeah, more/better docs on this stuff would certainly be nice. 

+1 - Although the plus side to this has been a very educational thread.

I have given up on the PC.
 
I just click through some appropriately named presets. If I like what I hear, well and good.

If not, I have no time to waste trying to understand something that deliberately emulates old analog gear that cannot be fully understood.

Why the heck are these ProChannel components not just plugins, for goodness sake?

A bit of an update on this open bug report....

There is no update. 


At this point, Cakewalk appears to be ignoring the issue...or at least the report.

So you are saying the Sonar X1 Power book is wrong here?
Could you submit an errata to Scott? (I've found a few fiddly issues myself which will hopefully go up sometime soon).

http://www.garrigus.com/powerbooks/SX1P/SX1PErrata.asp

All books have issues and mistakes.... so does software... and so do human beings :).
It's a lot easier to fix books and software. It's up to all of us to help each other improve as human beings..

Andromeda


A bit of an update on this open bug report....

There is no update. 


At this point, Cakewalk appears to be ignoring the issue...or at least the report.

If you reported the issue via the Cakewalk problem form it could take a month for them to get back to you. Many people submit bug reports for them to test (I'm probably still waiting on about 5 or 6 issues myself, they've already dealt with about half the issues I reported). I think the word ignore is used in error assuming you got an automated confirmation message, I think you perceive them as slow.
ps
Could anybody summarise the issue right from the beginning ignoring past info?
This whole thread confuses me. Is there an issue or isn't there?
 
Cheers

in summary, the pk4 compressor compresses even when the threshold is set higher than the highest peak

I think the gist of it is that the "threshold" knob label actually describes the knee point... while the deltas for the compression curve exists both below and above that mid point.

In other words the onset of compression begins at the delta (or point of curvature) below the knee point, (or point of intersection) described on the threshold knobs readout or scale.


Some one pointed out that in a system such as this that a softer knee would have the delta, or point of curvature, or the onset of compression further below the knee point.

The point being that adjustments to the knee character will also effect the level at which the onset of compression occurs.

The softer the knee the earlier the compression kicks in.

Think about that until it makes sense to you... it's a key to understanding what is going on with 4k controls.



So, with PC4k compressor you are totally dependent on viewing the gain reduction meter and guessing where the onset of compression is while using your ears to decide if you like what is happening.




Personally I prefer a modern, up to date, fully featured compressor that allows me to have everything you get with Pro Channel and so much more.



best regards,
mike

he said "summarize" lol ;)

Na I'm from the UK (we can spell :).