craigb
Hehe... Ampfixer didn't read the fine print!
 
Looks like Ken said the same thing basically.  LOL! 

Yea. You're right. Sorry Craig! I guess I did not have the 'reading glasses' on for the fine print. We're thinking the same on this one. 

Sad that it's come to this, but I see no downside to a world of profit-less music. Sure, there'd be a glut of burger-flippers and Wal-Mart greeters entering the job market, but the music itself would not suffer. Keep it in perspective: music has only been a money-making enterprise for less than a century, a blip on the musical timeline.

These guys may not fit the picture of kids huddled in their parents basement. They live in Toronto where the thought of buying a home is unobtainable for most. Most of the guys I've met don't own cars and many don't drive. They rent and use public transit while changing jobs every 2-3 years. Zero loyalty to the employer. That's completely backward to the paradigm most of us codgers grew up in.
I was with one company for 25 years. After that went south no one wanted me because they thought I was too old and too set in my corporate mentality. Then that company cut my pension and cancelled all the benefits I worked 25 years to get. I think the kids are on to something.

bitflipper
 Keep it in perspective: music has only been a money-making enterprise for less than a century, a blip on the musical timeline.

Hmmm. Hey "blip"flipper! Ok, troubadours and minstrels and bards made a little money during the middle ages, if the King didn't cut off their heads.
 
I think Ancient Greece probably had some itinerant philosophical buskers with lyres. Not sure about Rome, though.
 
Mr. Bach made some jingle playing organ in a church. Beethoven made enough to buy a piano, before having to cut the legs off of it.
 
And then we get to the "recorded music" period, lots of money there for a time, for some! And right about ten years ago, sayonara to selling music. 
 
So maybe it was more than a blip? Our generation has the luck of riding shotgun on the avalanche, as Shawn Colvin once wrote and sold a little.
 
Thanks, Obama!    :)
 
 
-Tom
 
 

Bitflipper is forgetting that for a vast majority of that "blip" the musicians STILL didn't make much, only the promoters and record labels.

bapu

Rain

UbiquitousBubba
I caught a glimpse of the 2017 sales reports. Sadly, both Mozart and Drake lose out to a blank CD that was accidentally marketed as Kanye's Greatest Hits. 

A blank CD would actually be quite an improvement over his actual "music".

Since Kanye is heralded as a genius (not by me) then a blank CD would be an uber genius? 

 
what's a blank cross dresser?  I don't get it...

ampfixer
These guys may not fit the picture of kids huddled in their parents basement. They live in Toronto where the thought of buying a home is unobtainable for most. Most of the guys I've met don't own cars and many don't drive. They rent and use public transit while changing jobs every 2-3 years. Zero loyalty to the employer. That's completely backward to the paradigm most of us codgers grew up in.

I also live in Toronto. Loyalty to the employer is a joke. When are THEY loyal?

More like when were they loyal (the 50's and 60's?).  Not now.

craigb
If Kanye's a genius, what are the vast majority of people with higher IQ's than him called? 

Burger flippers.