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2016/12/16 14:50:49
mohak96
Starise
No matter what you learn from others, at some point you just have to take the giant leap and do it. More specifically offer a good service and believe enough in yourself to charge for it.
Start doing and start charging. Sounds simple right? 
I haven't ever had the desire to do it or I would have done it years ago. I find plenty of satisfaction doing it as a hobby, but I know I could have done it.
Money in performance music probably isn't as profitable as making money recording for other acts. The education starts as soon as you start. During the education you can't quit. If you offer a good service someone is eventually going to pay you for it. Don't be a Mr. Nice guy...don't make too many exceptions or you'll never make any money. 
Get paid up front and have them sign a contract. Make sure they know what you will do for the fee and what costs extra. Just do it.




That's another direction I was looking into. But would it really work with a specific style of music? Surely someone will ultimately tell me they need it to sound exactly like Hans Zimmer. I mean they're paying, so I would do it regardless. But that feels a bit off, though.
2016/12/16 14:53:18
mohak96
Mesh
Another (off the wall suggestion) is putting up a Youtube video (the crazy stuff people do and the video just goes viral) while putting your music on the video? The more hits you get, the more you can possibly reach out to people?? IDK....just a suggestion.    




Yep. A lot of youtubers are using electronic music sub-genres increasingly. If I made enough to ultimately get it used by some famous youtuber, that would be some good free marketing.
2016/12/16 15:00:16
Mesh
mohak96
Mesh
Another (off the wall suggestion) is putting up a Youtube video (the crazy stuff people do and the video just goes viral) while putting your music on the video? The more hits you get, the more you can possibly reach out to people?? IDK....just a suggestion.    




Yep. A lot of youtubers are using electronic music sub-genres increasingly. If I made enough to ultimately get it used by some famous youtuber, that would be some good free marketing.


Interestingly, I recently started listening to Electro-Swing, Electro-Blues, E-Rock etc....which I thought was really done well and enjoyed listening to. Maybe you can get in a new genre and do some Electro-Disco-Bhangra
 
 

 
 
 
 
2016/12/16 15:00:55
slartabartfast
I doubt there are many people reading this forum who can speak to the music industry in India. The professionals who let you watch them work in a (recording?) studio might have some advice, assuming they do not just see you as a gullible musician from whom they can extract money. Such predatory people are pretty common in the US "recording" industry. In fact taking hopeful musicians' money with little chance of success, is probably the main money making activity for most of those in the world who have developed that skillset. 
 
Coursera.org offers a number of courses about the music industry (primarily US & Europe) that would give you a feel for opportunities. Do not pay for course credit, that will be worth nothing in actually getting work. If you are interested in studying music (as opposed to making money as a musician/composer/songwriter) then academic courses may make sense, especially if becoming a music teacher is your eventual goal. 
 
https://www.coursera.org/learn/music-business-foundations
https://www.coursera.org/learn/musicbiz
https://www.coursera.org/learn/music-industry
 
It is insanely speculative to imagine that you can earn money from some sort of self recording and digital distribution. For every act that went viral on YouTube and made it to a paying career there are many thousands who go nowhere. The best most musicians will get from that kind of exposure is the ability to point someone to an internet demo tape if they are trying to get someone to hire them to play live for a cheap venue like a wedding. 
 
It would be nice to say that musicians who have spent decades perfecting their craft and working regularly in small venue live performance will eventually make it to a secure earnings plateau, but the evidence is that  most will never go further than hand to mouth music income supplemented by a "day job" that actually pays the rent. 
 
2016/12/16 15:02:18
daryl1968
Hi Mohak
My only piece of advice would be this. Whatever you want to do in music, make sure you are doing it for the love of music and you are enjoying it not because you want to be rich and famous.
I'm an old fart and am still doing what I love with music - I have made a bit of money along the way but not enough to buy a Rolls Royce :)
Good luck with it mate
2016/12/16 15:05:03
mohak96
Mesh
mohak96
Mesh
Another (off the wall suggestion) is putting up a Youtube video (the crazy stuff people do and the video just goes viral) while putting your music on the video? The more hits you get, the more you can possibly reach out to people?? IDK....just a suggestion.    




Yep. A lot of youtubers are using electronic music sub-genres increasingly. If I made enough to ultimately get it used by some famous youtuber, that would be some good free marketing.


Interestingly, I recently started listening to Electro-Swing, Electro-Blues, E-Rock etc....which I thought was really done well and enjoyed listening to. Maybe you can get in a new genre and do some Electro-Disco-Bhangra
 
 

 
 
 
 




That would definitely be deafening.
But in all honesty, I mostly produce electronic rock. Something like Starset, but a bit more electronic.
I can't really play any Indian instruments except for the bansuri.
2016/12/16 15:06:38
Mesh
daryl1968
Hi Mohak
 
I'm an old fart
 



Oh no he didn't say that.... 
2016/12/16 15:09:51
mohak96
daryl1968
Hi Mohak
My only piece of advice would be this. Whatever you want to do in music, make sure you are doing it for the love of music and you are enjoying it not because you want to be rich and famous.
I'm an old fart and am still doing what I love with music - I have made a bit of money along the way but not enough to buy a Rolls Royce :)
Good luck with it mate




I've never really thought of being rich or famous. Just making music is enough to make me happy.
 
2016/12/16 15:14:44
daryl1968
mohak96
daryl1968
Hi Mohak
My only piece of advice would be this. Whatever you want to do in music, make sure you are doing it for the love of music and you are enjoying it not because you want to be rich and famous.
I'm an old fart and am still doing what I love with music - I have made a bit of money along the way but not enough to buy a Rolls Royce :)
Good luck with it mate




I've never really thought of being rich or famous. Just making music is enough to make me happy.
 




great attitude.
 
2016/12/16 15:15:41
craigb
The best way to make a small fortune in the music industry is, unfortunately, to start with a large fortune.  I think it's best to NOT get your hopes up, find work that gives you time for you to make and learn music as well as funding your gear.  This way you won't be forced to try and make money (which is a big creativity killer).  Once you've refined what makes your music "you" then definitely use some of the advice above and get it out using free sources like YouTube.  
 
A few decades ago, with the right motivation, tons of self-learning, some unique talents, a few fortunate connections and a lot of luck, you could make a decent living.  Now, not so much (ignoring the talent-less wastes of flesh that peddle horrible rubbish and pathetic opinions on people in the Top-40 pop genre which, even there requires a lot of what I said in the first sentence of this paragraph).
 
You're obviously young, so don't let us stop you from going for it but, just realize, it's not going to be an easy road to riches by any stretch of the imagination.  So, my advice, is to keep enjoying music (leaving some hope for being that one that makes it), but find another means of income so music doesn't become a burden.
 
Good luck! 
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