• SONAR
  • [Solved] Groove clip is busted in X3
2013/11/06 15:32:29
Guitarmech111
I just tried this
 
1. setup single sudio track
2. enable recording on track
3. from SPP at 0, press record
4. turn off record after 7 measures
5. scissor cut the clip to only include measures 3-6
6. right click the clip to enable groove clipping - get audio at ends of clip deleted message
7. hit ok
 
now the clips lengthen larger than the desired original clip.
 
groove clip is broken
2013/11/06 15:43:19
brundlefly
I can't reproduce this particular example, but see my post #5 in your other thread for the fix.
2013/11/06 15:48:01
Guitarmech111
I think it may have something to do with a corrupt INI file
2013/11/06 16:45:34
Guitarmech111
TS was able to repro in X3b and can't recover. I would call this a broken feature and hope it gets fixed very soon. Once you get into this situation, you can't get out of it. I hope to hear from DEV on this.

I think the bottom line is that the default tempo is incorrectly calsulated for audio files for groove clipping. I don't know what triggers it, but it ends up that way. I hope the bakers chime in on this one with something to try. All of my SONAR versions are affected by this. Groov clip looping does not work...
2013/11/06 17:14:53
Grumbleweed_
Make sure you have the correct number of beats and that you are cutting at the right places. I can do what I like with groove clip (for giggles I just made a 13 beat clip that worked exactly as it should (correct tempo etc)) so I would suggest that it isn't broken for everyone. Grum.
2013/11/06 17:21:31
chuckebaby
Broken is a very harsh word, it means:
having been fractured or damaged and no longer in one piece or in working order.
 
what you call broken, I call a possible bug.
but I cant replicate it, so I cant even say it's a bug.

groove clip is not broken. if it didn't work at all I may agree.
sometimes such words can make one potential user decide not to buy x3.
that's why I choose my words wisely. something people should really focus on when describing issues. 
2013/11/06 19:15:07
Guitarmech111
TS was able to reproduce the issue, so I would call that broken if you can't use the feature. Not only is it broken, this issue has also affected 8.5, X1, X2 and X3. This leads me to believe that something shared got corrupted. The BPM does not get calculated correctly and that is what is causing this issue I believe.
 
My original recipe repro'd in the tech support area on X3b, so I would say it is a bug/broken feature.
2013/11/06 21:26:27
chuckebaby
groove clips are working for me fine, you have one scenario here.
how do you call that broken ?
you cant use a certain feature of it ? yet ive been able to work around it using the same method as dave.
 
all im saying is you cant say something is broken while im still using it..lol.
its not broken for me. 
2013/11/06 21:39:31
Anderton
Did you trim the clip before trying to turn it into a groove clip? Otherwise, Sonar won't know you didn't mean to include the whole clip.
 
Remember, when you cut a clip, you're not cutting the clip itself - you're just telling Sonar which part of the clip to play back.
2013/11/06 22:34:22
Guitarmech111
I actually bounced the clip to a trimmed clip minus the audio at the ends. I then went to set it as a groove clip. So I was not working with a slip-edited clip.
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