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  • Removing the Pro Channel from X2 (or X3) Producer? (p.2)
2013/11/23 08:44:18
John
That was funny Bob! 
 
 
To the OP there is no reason for you to want to remove the PC. The notion is an absurdity. 
2013/11/23 09:12:01
hellogoodbye
robert_e_bone
For the record, I am NOT his uncle.  :)
 
Bob Bone
 


LOL
 
John
That was funny Bob! 
 
 
To the OP there is no reason for you to want to remove the PC. The notion is an absurdity. 




I told you I was nuts... I simply don't want it, period. I think it's a bit odd you don't have the option to completely disable and remove it. But well, anyway, I have the answer to my question, so thanks all!
2013/11/23 09:22:47
neirbod
hellogoodbye
I told you I was nuts... I simply don't want it, period. I think it's a bit odd you don't have the option to completely disable and remove it. But well, anyway, I have the answer to my question, so thanks all!



 
No more odd than the inability to remove the "print" feature from MS Word just because you don't own a printer!
 
As others have said, 1) turn it off, 2) hide it.  You will get exactly what you need.  It is hard to understand why this is not satisfactory for you.
2013/11/23 09:36:13
cclarry
Ok, while the ProChannel looks "kewl"...
 
It is nothing more then an added FX Bin...nothing more and nothing less...just for the record...
it actually ADDS to the code in the program, as it requires an additional step to be encoded
in the signal chain.  Instead of FX Bin >Fader you have PC>FXbin>Fader, which can be altered
based on how you set it up.  So it becomes a 3 STEP process as opposed to a 2 STEP process.

I know many of you here OHHHH and AHHHHH at the PC...but really, it's just a proprietary effects bin...
It isn't "MAGIC" other then the fact that it offers a "visual - scrollable" view of installed plugins,
rather then having to "double-click" on the effect to see the interface.  I'm not "dissin" the PC,
I'm just stating the obvious.



2013/11/23 10:00:31
BluerecordingStudios
hellogoodbye
cconde
But just out of curiosity, why do you want to remove one of the nicest features according to many? What are you experiencing or what do you dislike? 

 
I simply don't use it and so it takes up precious screenspace whenever I open that side panel.



You dont need to open those side panel - Inspector, if you dont want. Simple answer.
2013/11/23 10:04:00
John
CClarry wrote;
"It is nothing more then an added FX Bin...nothing more and nothing less...just for the record...
it actually ADDS to the code in the program, as it requires an additional step to be encoded
in the signal chain. Instead of FX Bin >Fader you have PC>FXbin>Fader, which can be altered
based on how you set it up. So it becomes a 3 STEP process as opposed to a 2 STEP process.

I know many of you here OHHHH and AHHHHH at the PC...but really, it's just a proprietary effects bin...
It isn't "MAGIC" other then the fact that it offers a "visual - scrollable" view of installed plugins,
rather then having to "double-click" on the effect to see the interface. I'm not "dissin" the PC,
I'm just stating the obvious."
 
 
True to a some extent except it is also designed to be used on every channel and buss without overloading ones CPU. The quality of the modules offered compares well with very costly third party plugins. The versatility it offers in conjunction with the FX bin is unprecedented. However it is not in the way or adds more CPU usage when it is not invoked. It is completely benign in that when unused it is not in any way a burden in taking up space or the CPU. This does seem like magic to me.
 
Objections to it are either based on ignorance or some malevolent reason. It is a brilliant idea that has been perfected in the latest X3 incarnation.
 
I don't believe it is a development that shouldn't invoke a little wonder. It is what makes the X series a sonic masterpiece.  
 
      
2013/11/23 12:13:27
Bristol_Jonesey
hellogoodbye
cconde
But just out of curiosity, why do you want to remove one of the nicest features according to many? What are you experiencing or what do you dislike? 

 
As I posted in another topic I am thinking about buying the basic X3 version mainly because it doesn't have the Pro Channel LOL And since Wookiee posted it is hardcoded, I might as well do that. (If my other answer in another topic gets a satisfactory answer, that is).


Yes but if you do that, you won't have access to many of the soft synths that you say you do use. There must be at least a dozen vsti's in Studio & Producer that don't ship with X3
2013/11/23 12:16:30
Bristol_Jonesey
 

cclarry
Ok, while the ProChannel looks "kewl"...
 
It is nothing more then an added FX Bin...nothing more and nothing less...just for the record...
it actually ADDS to the code in the program, as it requires an additional step to be encoded
in the signal chain.  Instead of FX Bin >Fader you have PC>FXbin>Fader, which can be altered
based on how you set it up.  So it becomes a 3 STEP process as opposed to a 2 STEP process.

I know many of you here OHHHH and AHHHHH at the PC...but really, it's just a proprietary effects bin...
It isn't "MAGIC" other then the fact that it offers a "visual - scrollable" view of installed plugins,
rather then having to "double-click" on the effect to see the interface.  I'm not "dissin" the PC,
I'm just stating the obvious.





 
Nobody is suggesting this at all - the point is that the reasons given by the OP for wanting to remove it altogether are pretty nonsensical, from a practical point of view.
 
There is an awful lot more to gain than lose from any perspective.
2013/11/23 13:06:24
hellogoodbye
BluerecordingStudios
You dont need to open those side panel - Inspector, if you dont want. Simple answer.



But I DO use the Inspector a lot... I just don't want PC in there.
 
Bristol_Jonesey
Yes but if you do that, you won't have access to many of the soft synths that you say you do use. There must be at least a dozen vsti's in Studio & Producer that don't ship with X3



Hence my question in that other topic if you CAN use X2's Pro stuff in X3 basic!
 
Bristol_Jonesey
the point is that the reasons given by the OP for wanting to remove it altogether are pretty nonsensical, from a practical point of view.



My goodness, does EVERYTHING in live has to make sense...? Is it so odd to want something most people find odd? I had a simple question which has been answered so why do some of you continue to talk about the use or not if what I asked? Words like 'ignorance' and 'malevolent reason' are posted. What are you all getting so uptight about? Really... I didn't expect this on a forum where you expect creative people with an open mind.
2013/11/23 14:12:15
robert_e_bone
While I certainly have no understanding of the OP request, lots of us have ways of working and/or looking at things that baffle others.  (ask either of my ex wives).
 
That being said - I still don't get it, but don't need to, as it is not my system or my frustration at having it there.
 
I do not believe there is any way to remove it, other than to collapse that pane, or I think the X2 or X3 basic editions don't have it.
 
Other than that - good luck.
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