Imagine.  Working on a project you know will need a score kicked out and parts.  You use your DAW because the 2 big notators have useless MIDI engines.  So instead of exporting a MIDI 01 file and put it into a notator program, you just go to your plug in list and insert a notation front end.  Last time sequencing software had a decent notator was Logic 5, just before Apple came in heavy.  And go back to Notator / Atari and really put out the written page
 
So, either Finale or Sybilus will take the challenge and make a plug in that integrates with DAW's and they will win the war on that front.

All Cakewalk woulld need to do is allow the current score to be exported as an xml file which could then easily be imported into a top end score program for further editing.

we thought we were on to something when they included Notion as an elite pack but nothing came of that.

Notion did however make a version of  Notion SLE Miroslav Philharmonic available which is what I use if I need an above average score output. Unfortunately it's only 32 bit so doesn't allow access to any of my 64 bit plugins and it only operates in standalone mode. so doesn't connect ot SONAR directly. It will however rewire to SONAR in 32 bit mode but I hate having to go back and forth between 32 and 64 bit fo just a score editor.

I've yet to try using jBridge to allow 64 bit plugins on a 32 bit host.

mudgel


I've yet to try using jBridge to allow 64 bit plugins on a 32 bit host.

I've yet to try using jBridge to allow 64 bit plugins on a 32 bit host.

Mike, does jBridge do this? It's normally used to run 32-bit plugs on x64 as I'm sure you're aware. Interesting idea though.
 

Yes jBridge can do it's magic both ways but I've never had need to try before.

Frankly the hassel of using this version of Notion tied to IK Multimedia's Miroslav Philarmonic is a real pain because I can't do the project inside of SONAR. It has to be done inside of Notion and while I can use other plugin's it's a pain to have to learn a whole new interface (again after X1).

Cakewalk really need to update the Score editor just a bit more and provide xml file export.

Pro Tools has this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf9JDgyGwY8

Noah330


Pro Tools has this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf9JDgyGwY8

Yep, that's because AVID now owns Sibelius so they probably ported that technology over into Pro Tools. Definitely a very nice addition.

Scott

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another no-brainer imho.
a great score generator/editor is old technology.  also, standard notation doesnt change- ever!
therefore, once a kick-ass one has been developed in Sonar, it will require very little tweaking/updating over time.

question:
what is the advantage to exporting xml over midi to import into sibelius?

A lot of the posts kept the original disconnect....disconnected.  Great insight, but still not the opportunity sitting...no punding on the dorr of the notation programs.  A direct plug in to the millions of DAW software being used.  The moment you get some software looking at it from their point of view, you get a notation program trying to make you jump thru hoops to get your work into their process.  MID 01 export is still the really only true portability (although I'll try the xml concept...wasn't sure about that one) and that is 30 years old.  Are you kidding!  As soon as you even look at audio being in the tracks, although it tells you many times during the process that you can't make a score staff from audio (yeah we get it) it still buggers up the score layout.  
 
I'm serious.  Notator in Atari was the only program that realyl made get interfacing between a good looking notation and a powerful MIDI engine.  no audio, but has anyone used that program with timecode?  Seamless and easy.  No time generator needed.
 
Oh well...good ideas but I thought I'd re-visit this post because I needed a quick 5 song kick out to notation last night and it took me longer to get even crappy looking parts then it did to program the 20 or so tracks per song.  DAW's are BETTER at programming then any notation program and notation programs have the years of research of notation.  But for the majority of us...there are only 12 notes and 28 identifiable rhythm clusters.  Let's start there and build up to 14th Century notation.  IMHO 

mudgel
All Cakewalk woulld need to do is allow the current score to be exported as an xml file which could then easily be imported into a top end score program for further editing.

Sonar already does this.  It's not a solution for notation as a composing tool.  (And it really doesn't work well.)
 
corrected typo

vintagevibe

mudgel
All Cakewalk woulld need to do is allow the current score to be exported as an xml file which could then easily be imported into a top end score program for further editing.

Sonar already doesn't this.  It's not a solution for notation as a composing tool.  (And it really doesn't work well.)

I believe it was added with X1 Producer Expanded some time after the post was made