• SONAR
  • Possible effect bug (p.2)
2013/11/24 21:55:11
swamptooth
as long as there is an audio SOURCE the effect plays.  this includes loops.  when the last loop is finished, the effect will stop abruptly because there is no longer an audio source.  
imagine having two overlapping audio clips on a track, and wanting different effects on each, so that you can select them both and bounce them down.  this is more of a sound design idea, but very useful in certain situations. 
2013/11/24 22:06:45
John
"imagine having two overlapping audio clips on a track,"
I run across this problem in another form from time to time, all I do is cut the clip from its track and stick it on another by itself. There I can manipulate it all I want in all sorts of ways. Its really clip abuse. But no one is telling.
2013/11/24 22:13:49
swamptooth
i should have added "on purpose" to the overlapping clips on a track thing...
2013/11/25 12:46:49
brundlefly
shmuelyosef
If you loop a clip, or replicate (i.e. multiple copies like is always done), does the effect carry over from copy to copy?



If you groove clip it, you'll hear the FX tail because it's a contiguous clip, but if you copy-paste it, the clip boundary is still going to limit the FX playback. Also, I noticed earlier that the FX tail is still in the playback buffer if you rewind and restart playback, and I checked and confirmed that is also heard if you loop a clip with a silent lead-in, so I think there's a slight problem here. If the clip boundary is going to define the limit of the FX audibility, it needs to stop processing at that point altogether.
2013/11/25 13:06:20
Splat
Yup exactly that, it doesn't flush the audio buffer afterwards I notice. So If you stop, rewind and playback the track you may here the reverb continuing in the wrong place...
2013/11/25 13:17:08
Grem
CakeAlexS
Yup exactly that, it doesn't flush the audio buffer afterwards I notice. So If you stop, rewind and playback the track you may here the reverb continuing in the wrong place...


 I can confirm this.
 
Is it expected behavior? Don't know. I can't think of a "Why". But ya never know!
 
 
2013/11/25 13:45:36
Splat
> Is it expected behavior? Don't know
 
Na can't be expected unless you are a timelord.
 
2013/11/25 20:43:07
Splat
So Cake has closed the issue CWBRN-21923 I reported which seems fair enough...

Hello Alex,

The described behavior is as intended for an audio clip. You'd need to extend the clip for the duration of the effect. Per your forum post, if you would like to see an option to toggle effect tails from clip FX, please fill out our Feature Request Form if you have not done so already.

Best Regards,

Cakewalk Problem Reporter


So I've now logged new issue CWBRN-21923 as there is definitely an issue with the audio buffers:

STEPS:

Follow steps from closed issue: CWBRN-21845

When the clip has finished stop audio.
Rewind to beginning of project.
Press play.
Observe the effect continues to play, the audio buffer for the effect has not been cleared.

Discussion also taken place in forums (see previous issue). Has been reproduced by other people as well.

Thankyou

And I've logged an enhancement request:

Please follow steps via CWBRN-21845 which has been closed by design.

This is an enhancement request which allows effect which has been assigned to a specific clip, to continue to play rather than being truncated at the end of the clip.

This option will be available in Tools -> Preferences.


Many thanks

And I logged yet another enhancement request, this time to do with enhancement requests :)

This enhancement request is a request to have a tracking number after an enhancement request is made, much like logging a bug.,,, for this website...

Thankyou


There we go :)


 
Cheers
 
Alex
2013/11/26 08:39:03
chuckebaby
John
"imagine having two overlapping audio clips on a track,"
I run across this problem in another form from time to time, all I do is cut the clip from its track and stick it on another by itself. There I can manipulate it all I want in all sorts of ways. Its really clip abuse. But no one is telling.


that's exactly how I deal with this too.
it might not be book standards but you know sometimes you need to be creative.
I do this with guitar solos, vocal lines that extend in to another bar.
I do this quite frequent.
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