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2013/11/19 12:14:29
gswitz
Given this good information (thanks for posting it), I would like to try recording smaller files. Maybe your hard drives are having trouble keeping up.
 
Open Preferences (click P) then go to File > Audio Data > and set Record Bit Depth and Render Bit Depth to 16.
 
Then open a new project and try making a recording.
 
Make sure that all Virus Scanning software is disabled including Windows Defender.
2013/11/19 14:48:02
NOR_ken
 
gswitz
Given this good information (thanks for posting it), I would like to try recording smaller files. Maybe your hard drives are having trouble keeping up.
 
Open Preferences (click P) then go to File > Audio Data > and set Record Bit Depth and Render Bit Depth to 16.
 
Then open a new project and try making a recording.
 
Make sure that all Virus Scanning software is disabled including Windows Defender.




 
your welcome.  I can't imagen its the HHD.  I have 5 of this. speed is tested and are abow 500 read and writh.     everything els works good on them. and yes thay all
are connected to 6Gbit Sata.  Why talk about recording, i have not come that far yet. First i wan't the software to play a audio fil. Without craking the sound.  recording did work fine when i did try it. but the playback is not good. So that is what im working on.
 
CakeAlexS
Disable intel speedstep and update your drivers and firmware everywhere. Run windows update.
Run chkdsk and defrag. Otherwise good luck with that.... ;)




All drivers are updated.  all from Motherboard network , audio , controller, HDD drivers and all new drivers.  + firmware and bios. Not the laste ver, but the last best working one.
I will try the things you talk about, but what is Speedstep ?
 
I will .
Disable all network / anti-virus fierwall.
Disable speedstep when i know what that is :D
I have orginal win7 . Windows update have nothing new to get
I will run defrag , chkdsk , CCelaner
+ I will disable the audio things that are running from the motherboard. this motherboard have good hi-fi sound. So its some
controller her and there. Like THX true studio controll panel, sound blaster panel controller ect.
 
Still i dont know why i need to do all this. the laptop have orginal win7 as well and all fierwalls and the same anti-virus software on it. all running there and no problems.
If this wont work. I will post some more photos of Sonar prefrens and windows/audio setting.

thansk agene.  brb with updates.
 
2013/11/19 16:06:03
NOR_ken
Well i did it all. Now its working, no idea what the problem was. I did all i did say abow. But i did not close down fierwall virus controll ect.  i did defrag,ccleaner ect.
Run Sonar x2  88Sample / 2,0msec.  works fine. No crakling sound.  playback and recording is going good.
Did take some photos anyway tho.  Sorry if the images is a littel big for forum page.
Thanks all for the help! *BIG SMILE*
 






 
 
 
All i need is a sound card =) 
2013/11/19 17:45:32
gswitz
What kinda candy bar has that yellow wrapper?
2013/11/19 17:56:34
Splat
Nice...
(I've just discovered I don't have enough LEDs for music production.)
2013/11/19 18:04:43
mgh
so why aren't you using that M-Audio MobilePre as the audio interface again?
2013/11/19 18:28:38
NOR_ken
gswitz
What kinda candy bar has that yellow wrapper?




lol , its a Norwegian Chocolate 

 
 
mgh
so why aren't you using that M-Audio MobilePre as the audio interface again?




I'm using it when i record music and lissten too it wile i produce. Then i use interface and studio monitors. When the prosject is close too done.
I lissen too it true the Bigger Stereo/surround THX system.  =)
2013/11/19 19:13:14
robert_e_bone
In case you did not know this, there are really 2 main purposes for having and using a dedicated audio interface, rather than a low-end sound card or on-board sound chip.
 
1.  Inputs and outputs, along with microphone pre-amps and quality analog/digital converters.  There are lots of different levels of quality and number of inputs and outputs, as well as with the converters.  Many audio interfaces also have midi ports, as well, and most allow multiple outputs, such as to different sets of speakers.
2.  The big thing about having a dedicated hardware audio interface is that the drivers (usually ASIO, but not always), take the massive load of analog/digital conversion off of the CPU and instead the audio interface has hardware circuitry that does all of that work.  
 
Without a dedicated audio interface handling all of the work involved with analog/digital conversion, that work would all fall on your CPU, and this will make it VERY difficult for your computer to keep up with processing all of that data without sometimes dropping the ball.  When this occurs, you get the crackles/pops/dropouts that you are/were experiencing.
 
When you are simply playing songs back through your computer speakers, your on-board sound capabilities are usually fine for the job, but when you are using a program like Sonar, you may EASILY overwhelm the native ability of your computer to keep up with it all.
 
I would recommend that you consider connecting both sets of speakers to the dedicated audio interface and using its routing capabilities to send sound output to whatever set of speakers you choose to use during that particular set of work in Sonar you are doing.
 
IF you choose to do this, I would recommend you start with the ASIO drivers and the following settings for both the interface and for Sonar, as a starting point for getting good quality sound output without cracks, pops, and dropouts:
 
For the audio interface: Sample Rate 44.1 or 48 k, ASIO Buffer Size of 128
 
For Sonar: Sample Rate of either 44.1 or 48 k (must match setting on interface), record bit-depth of 24, driver mode of ASIO.
 
I hope I have helped explain it, and I hope that you end up with something you can work with on a regular basis without having audio issues.
 
Bob Bone
 
2013/11/20 08:08:14
NOR_ken
robert_e_bone
In case you did not know this, there are really 2 main purposes for having and using a dedicated audio interface, rather than a low-end sound card or on-board sound chip.
 
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Hey robert_e_bone.  If you reaf true my post one more time you will see what i mean and why I use my system like I use it.  but I can tell you one more time and with a more depth why I do it.
 
1. I know Sonar uses Sound that are hard to work on true a on board audio chip, So the CPU need to work a lot more.
I will like to add the info for you that on Sonar you also have the CPU work bar that tell's you how much the CPU are working. I don't get my bar vary much up, whatever I do in Sonar. I wan't to say one more time that i have one of the best i7 extrem CPU's and they handel this type of work vary good. I have no CPU or work lag what so ever.

2. I know Audio interface are there too run the audio for you. Inn and out signals. But then i wan't to tell you one more
time but agene with a littel more depth why I use it like I do.  I use only the Audio interface when I record and When I
run audio rigth true and on the Sound Studio Monitors. To get 0 delay and best sound qulity. But you also need to know. Sonar Producer software are the finaly software to edit you music. So I don't wan't too only use the Studio Monitors. becuse where my music will be playd they don't use studi monitors. So i Wan't to lissen true my music on HI-FI system as well. Too ensure that I'm happy with my results.  If I only keep too the Studio monitors I will only her that best out of it. But I need to know how it will sound true stander speaker as well. becuse in the end its there it will be playd.

3. There is one more reasun why I don't always use audio interface. Some time I make sounds and things in Surround. Standar or the audio interface I have do not support 5.1. not many audio interface do this. I did say what Audio interfacses I use so this I guss you know allready.
 
So I record/eidit with Audio interface, true keyboard or guitar or use it as a preamp too my Studio Mic.
When it sounds good.
I turn all the sound too the HI-FI X-fi SPDF and too my 5,1 System too lissen too it there. how bad or good it is. Too make it sound good where it all ends up anyway. I bet you know what I mean. A music file with good bass and good sound. Can be like crapp on a bad sound system. but this you can edit true Sonar Producer. So you make the file fit best on all sound system.
 
Now when all is working. Sonar runs smood and fast with or without the sound interface.
Sorry too not tell it out clearly when I did first tell it.
 
I will look for a sound card tho, but where I am now. I don't need any.
Thanks agene all! =)
 
2013/11/20 10:17:04
robert_e_bone
I just didn't know if you were aware of any of that.
 
I use my audio interface for the reasons I stated, and it does the job for me.  I never ever have audio pops, crackles, or dropouts.
 
Good luck with it all, I'm going to back out of this thread.
 
Bob Bone
 
 
 
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