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2013/10/19 13:22:15
Studious
Funkybot
Noel, nice to see the level of transparency that you (and other Cakewalk staffers) have been showing recently. It's refreshing. As an unhappy Sonar 1-X2 user, who would love to be able to rejoin the fold one day, I hope this continues. From the outside, X3 looks like it was a pretty solid release. A few old bugs resolved (I've been in touch with Andrew already - waiting to hear back), and a few new features, and I'd probably jump right back on the Cakewalk ship if things keep trending in the direction they have been since X3. So kudos...


Agreed!  I'm still struggling with X2a, and the silence of 2013 pretty much lost me.  But I've been checking in on X3, and it's impressive so far.
 
Cakewalk,
Please do not get caught up building new-features/marketing-releases while bugs remain unfixed.  Please make bug fixes a priority for X3. 
 
And pretty please: don't ever go back to the "We can't say anything about anything" days (well, 9 months, to be more accurate), while users struggle with fundamental bugs. 
 
Basically, do not abandon X3 and hide away like you did with X2 and we can wipe the slate clean and move forward happily.
 
Best wishes!
2013/10/19 14:00:15
jbow
These ARE the good old days !!
2013/10/19 14:03:53
jscomposer
Studious
Funkybot
Noel, nice to see the level of transparency that you (and other Cakewalk staffers) have been showing recently. It's refreshing. As an unhappy Sonar 1-X2 user, who would love to be able to rejoin the fold one day, I hope this continues. From the outside, X3 looks like it was a pretty solid release. A few old bugs resolved (I've been in touch with Andrew already - waiting to hear back), and a few new features, and I'd probably jump right back on the Cakewalk ship if things keep trending in the direction they have been since X3. So kudos...



Cakewalk,
Please do not get caught up building new-features/marketing-releases while bugs remain unfixed.  Please make bug fixes a priority for X3. 
 



Please give us a few examples of these "bugs", I must be one of the only users that never has issues!
2013/10/19 14:56:19
CJaysMusic
I hope this update fixes the up and down track scroll for the track view so you cn only show one or 2 tracks at the top of the track view, like you could in all the other 12 Sonar versions
 
CJ
2013/10/19 16:26:31
cparmerlee
Studious
Cakewalk,
Please do not get caught up building new-features/marketing-releases while bugs remain unfixed.  Please make bug fixes a priority for X3. 

A balance is needed.  Certainly they should prioritize pervasive problems that impair the use of the product for large numbers of users.  Much of what remains are situations that are not pervasive, but are related to a particular user's choice of hardware, software, or workflow.  I'm not suggesting that these situations should never be addressed, but it doesn't make any sense to halt all forward progress in order to deal with a situation seen by only a few users.
 
Every product manager has to deal with this trade-off.  Typically development shops have a team that is in charge of support issues, and this is separate from the product development team.  That ensures that the product continues forward at the same time that problems are addressed.  Smaller shops might not be able to segregate their teams, and that can make this balance harder to achieve.
2013/10/19 21:21:38
daveny5
X3C already? I haven't even gotten X3 yet. I'm moving to North Carolina and my studio is in boxes. I wonder what version it will be when I finally get settled in a few weeks.
2013/10/20 00:24:49
JimmyBoy
these patches are sooooooo sssssssllllllllllooooooooowwwwwwww to download...... will x3c be on a faster network or will cakewalk be throttling download speeds?
2013/10/20 07:38:04
Skyline_UK
hockeyjx
Am I the only that thinks:
1)Cake had a good vision for the future, but it took a little longer than customers were ready/patient for?
2)The Roland actually hampered Cake's ability to do business? 




I think the uncertainty over a number of months of perhaps knowing they were up for sale, then the hiatus while it all takes shape, all contrived to put a damper on things.  I've been in companies when this sort of thing happens (a few times) and it can create a difficult vibe: long term plans of the old owner go on hold, staff don't know what the future holds, senior management can't share much whilst negotiations are underway, and human beings always suspect the worst (they're sometimes right...)
 
But the clouds have all lifted.  I personally feel there's a strong feeling around here now that CW are headed back to the sunny uplands, which is great.  Can't wait for X3c! 
2013/10/20 08:31:31
RajahP
Oh... Already?
2013/10/20 10:56:10
cparmerlee
Skyline_UK
I think the uncertainty over a number of months of perhaps knowing they were up for sale, then the hiatus while it all takes shape, all contrived to put a damper on things. 



That definitely can be a factor.  I would also suspect that it was hard to get approvals from Roland and decisions were slow in coming.  Based on how differently things seem to be working now, I surmise that the day-to-day decisions are happening at Gibson instead of Roland, even though the transfer isn't official yet.
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