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  • Comp numbering confusion?
2013/10/18 15:52:22
amiller
I'm really dig'n the new/revamped comp recording feature.  I am seeing some unusual stuff though...at least to me.  Even though I always record with comp mode on sometimes the take lanes get numbered from high to low and sometimes low to high.  It was my understanding that the new comp mode would number and list the takes from high to low starting at the top?  I also see the comp lanes get sliced up into phrases without me doing it.  Sometimes the lanes are just "pre" sliced?
2013/10/18 16:13:17
stevec
If you're just loop recording or even stop/starting and recording a new pass each time, then yes, the lanes should be numbered 1-n from bottom up so the newest take is on top.  The only way I've seen anything diferent is if I manually add or delete lanes.
 
But I've never come across any type of "pre-slicing".   Only if I comp or splt clips will that happen.
 
2013/10/18 16:20:18
brundlefly
I haven't seen a problem with lane or take numbering, either; most recent take is always at the top, and always the highest numbered lane, though take numbers in clips start over when a new recording is made after stopping the transport.
 
The one case in which you will get "pre-slicing" is when stopping the transport part way into the next take (whether looping or by manually recording another pass). The previous take(s) will get split at the end of the partial take, and the overlapping part of the previous take will be muted. All you have to do is delete that last partial take lane (assuming you don't want it), and swipe through the previous clip with the comp tool to "heal" the split(s), and unmute the previously muted section.
2013/10/18 16:27:17
stevec
Ah yes, the "left-overs".  
2013/10/19 16:20:07
neirbod
I just had a session today and also experienced takes being put down in apparently random order.  It happened on more than one song.  If there is a pattern to it I have not found it yet.  Could be a bug, or just some odd but logical "feature" I have not yet figured out.  Certainly not what I want to see happen.
2013/10/19 17:32:28
amiller
Yeah, it's very strange.  Today, I had a loop set and recorded about 10 takes with comp on.  The takes were labeled "1" to "10" from top to bottom.  I remember thinking that's not what I was expecting.  Anyway, I undid the recording and started again.  I got the same numbering results.  I went through the same process one more time and SONAR numbered the takes "10" to "1" from top to bottom.  It really doesn't bother me that much but I do have to check each time to be sure I know which order the takes are in.  If this is not a bug than I clearly don't have a handle on how comp is working.
2013/10/22 07:51:25
neirbod
It gets stranger. I just noticed a twist on one song where I recorded an acoustic guitar in XY. Each mic is on its own track called either "mic A" or "mic B" and there are multiple takes.  See the attached screenshot.  Note I did delete some takes which is why there is no take 1 for example. Of the takes I did keep I did not move anything around.  You'll see for mic A the takes are the order one would expect.  But for mic B the takes are in the order 7-5-4-6.  I really seems like a bug, albeit an intermittent one.  I have seen it on other songs but I only noticed later at mixing so I can't recall the specific order of events I used.  When I tried a few times to recreate it I have not been able to.
 
Note - to see the full size version right click and select "open in new tab"
 
I will send the screen shot to Cakewalk's problem reporting system in the hopes that it helps identify the problem
 

2013/10/22 14:01:34
amiller
Yeah, I think this is a bug also.  I was recording using comp the other day for most of the day.  The numbering order was randomly flip flopping throughout the session.  I could not determine a pattern...'seemed totally random.
2013/10/22 15:07:00
stevec
Weird...  I haven't come across any random lane numbering... yet.
 
2013/10/22 16:41:36
amiller
stevec
Weird...  I haven't come across any random lane numbering... yet.
 




Well, it's not that the lane numbering is random it's that the ascending and descending order is random.  For instance, 1-10 in one loop recording session and then 10-1 in another session.  I cannot predict which way the order is going to be from session to session.
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