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  • Softsynth midi output - how do you use it?[Reply from support - but not solved] (p.2)
2013/11/06 08:38:11
mgh
i guess he means using the arpeggiator in, say Z3ta, but the sample (sound) from a second synth? i'm not a synth guy so don't know if this is one use of midi out? as the different sound may affect how you play it, so recording the midi part in the original synth might not always work as well?
2013/11/06 10:04:26
Grumbleweed_
I have a plugin whose only purpose is to output midi. It has no audio output, it is designed to drive other plugins so they produce audio.
If the routing in X3 is suspect/temperamental/cr@p then this plugin has no use. The main reason I went through what I did in my earlier post in this thread was one, to try to help the OP and two, I was in a panic as X3 appears to be broken and I didn't want to lose my special plugin.

Something is wrong with X3's midi routing.

Grum.
2013/11/06 10:52:39
lawp
grumbleweed4162
Something is wrong with X3's midi routing.

this
2013/11/06 11:18:16
Mystic38
To those that do not understand that there is an issue..There are many uses for the midi out of a VST.. and none of them include the reuse of the original input source..:)
 
... arpeggiators, chord generators, modulation & step sequencer patterns to name just a few of the midi modulation functions being generated by some VST with midi out capability....and as grumbleweed indicates, there are now a number of midi only VST.
 
a big and serious +1 to "Something is wrong with X3's midi routing"
2013/11/06 11:31:59
stoutlyric
Please fix, have been waiting a super long time for this.

Thanks
2013/11/06 12:34:35
robert_e_bone
Thanks for clarifying - I wasn't trying to say there was no issue - just did not understand it well enough.
 
Bob Bone
 
2013/11/06 14:09:14
stevec
Do any of the delivered SONAR plugins output MIDI as being described here?   I've been following various posts about this topic since X3 was released, and have an interest in trying out this type of functionality.  
 
Here's what I initially tried: I inserted an instance of Z3TA2 (MIDI out was auto-enabled), selected a preset with an arpeggiator and added a single four bar note to trigger ir, inserted an instance of DimPro and set its MIDI input to Z3TA's output (tried OMNI and individual channels).  But I couldn't get DimPro to output anything or show any MIDI signal during playback.
 
Any pointers for a complete newbie to the MIDI out feature?  
 
2013/11/06 14:48:51
Grumbleweed_
stevec
Do any of the delivered SONAR plugins output MIDI as being described here?   I've been following various posts about this topic since X3 was released, and have an interest in trying out this type of functionality.   Here's what I initially tried: I inserted an instance of Z3TA2 (MIDI out was auto-enabled), selected a preset with an arpeggiator and added a single four bar note to trigger ir, inserted an instance of DimPro and set its MIDI input to Z3TA's output (tried OMNI and individual channels).  But I couldn't get DimPro to output anything or show any MIDI signal during playback. Any pointers for a complete newbie to the MIDI out feature?    


Read my detailed post in this thread. I pretty sure the arp will not be outputted by the zeta but the note used to trigger it will.....but only once you get the two devices talking to each other like I describe in my post.

Grum.

Edit: Actually it will be interesting to know what the zeta pumps out - the arp'ed midi would be cool if it is outputted.
2013/11/06 14:52:01
stevec
Thanks, Grum.   For whatever reason I completey missed that post!   Printing in 5, 4, 3, 2...  
 
 
 
Edit: Are you just enabling Input Echo on both synth tracks?  Step six seems to indicate that, so I wasn't sure if MIDI out was still was a factor.
 
2013/11/06 15:10:45
Grumbleweed_
stevec
Thanks, Grum.   For whatever reason I completey missed that post!   Printing in 5, 4, 3, 2...  
 
 
 
Edit: Are you just enabling Input Echo on both synth tracks?  Step six seems to indicate that, so I wasn't sure if MIDI out was still was a factor.
 




Both tracks are blue. I discovered a while back it (in X2) both have to be on for this to work (I lost a lot of hair trying to figure out the lack of sound).
I also just discovered the zeta output is the plain note and not the pattern (as I first suspected).
 
Grum.
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