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2018/01/04 03:16:16
CakeAlexSHere
Anderton
My computer recently had several Windows updates, including going to 1709. What I've found so far is that SONAR is loading faster and running more smoothly; the tradeoff seems to be a longer shutdown time. Although I continue to experience the occasional SONAR glitch, there's nothing that wasn't happening before the updates.
 
Like many of you I've been focused on what happens if Windows "breaks" SONAR, but another possibility is that as Windows becomes more refined, SONAR will benefit from this instead of experience problems. This may fall under the "wishful thinking" category, but still, based on my current experience I'm not prepared to rule it out.
 
Although I'm getting up to speed on Studio One so I can work with future MIDI enhancements, there are still several types of projects where nothing does the job as well as SONAR...so I want to use SONAR for these types of projects, as well as finish legacy ones, for as long as humanly possible.




It's not an either/or scenario I really don't understand why you do posts like this they are just plain silly.
 
Sure Windows performance can get better and more reliable, but ultimately if Windows stops supporting a programming library that Sonar needs to function it will break, unless you have a backup solution or you able to freeze updates. It's that simple.
 
Now we all know why you are really posting here, you want the flock to follow you to Studio ONE - the next target you are aiming for. Of course you do.
 
Have fun/love and kisses.
2018/01/04 03:21:12
CakeAlexSHere
Here's my TIP OF THE WEEK:
 
Run Windows 10 PRO.
Configure Windows update to "Current Branch for Business".
Done.
 
https://www.howtogeek.com/223083/what-does-%E2%80%9Cdefer-upgrades%E2%80%9D-in-windows-10-mean/
 
2018/01/04 03:28:16
Cactus Music
Funny this thread about W10, I'm 10 minutes away from taking it off my second DAW. 
I've had it --
I use 2 computers almost equally right now. One upstairs and one downstairs.  Both are fully loaded and licensed with all things Sonar and 3rd party stuff all authorized. I also have Cubase and Wavelab on both. 
 
The upstairs DAW I just re built with W8.1 and as the weeks go by this has been a good move. So far absolutely nothing has gone wrong. I'm not predicting anything will. I used it originally for over a year like that until W10 installed itself without my permission. Thank goodness that can't happen again. 
Not so with the W10 downstairs set up. I just had to do the whole re authorize all my 3rd party stuff including the Steinberg e licencer. AGAIN! not only that,  it has kicked me out of One Drive and refuses my password which is very annoying. Then It wants my MS password just to open friggin Word 2016!!  What kind of OS makes everything think it's in a new machine everytime it updates?? That's nuts' It's almost so bad I start to think about Mac's!! and if you knew me you'd know that's extreme! 
 
You can have your W10 and you can spend 2 hours every couple of weeks fixing what it breaks. The downstairs box came with W7 pro, It still has the serial on the side, I'm good to go. Need to do it before the servers die in May or what ever. 
Sorry about the rant... all I wanted to do was print a lyric!! It took me an hour!!! I ended up using my W 7 laptop. took 2 min. 
 
2018/01/04 04:09:18
ampfixer
CakeAlexSHere
Here's my TIP OF THE WEEK:
 
Run Windows 10 PRO.
Configure Windows update to "Current Branch for Business".
Done.
 
https://www.howtogeek.com/223083/what-does-%E2%80%9Cdefer-upgrades%E2%80%9D-in-windows-10-mean/
 




Yep, that's what I do. I'll let the eager beavers gnaw on the wood.
2018/01/04 05:04:55
Anderton
CakeAlexSHere
It's not an either/or scenario I really don't understand why you do posts like this they are just plain silly.

 
And I don't think anyone who doesn't share your, uh, "unique" mindset would understand what's "silly" about contributing a post regarding a possibility that hasn't been mentioned before (at least I haven't seen it mentioned). Every now and then I pull out an old Windows program, and find that it not only still runs, but runs lightning fast compared to when I was running it on Windows 95. So sue me for thinking this could possibly happen with SONAR.
 
Sure Windows performance can get better and more reliable, but ultimately if Windows stops supporting a programming library that Sonar needs to function it will break, unless you have a backup solution or you able to freeze updates. It's that simple.

 
On the other hand, you prefer to restate that which has been said numerous times before. Carry on.
 
Now we all know why you are really posting here, you want the flock to follow you to Studio ONE - the next target you are aiming for. Of course you do.

 
I am posting here because I still use SONAR, and enjoy helping people get the most out of the program. Educate yourself - click on my "Recent Posts." I guess you didn't see my post a couple days ago about a cool trick with the Console Emulator. And if my hidden agenda in posting was to get people using Studio One, then it would make no sense to write a post offering a scintilla of hope that SONAR might carry on for a lot longer than people might think.
 
As to my "next" target, had you paid attention to what I've been saying in this forum for years, you'd realize that as mentioned numerous times I have been using, and continue to use, both Studio One and Live, and have since they were on version 1. Surely you can understand why someone who's been using Studio One for years would be interested in getting up to speed on the latest version. 
 
You may even be aware there are some major MIDI improvements rolling out over the next couple years that other sequencer manufacturers will support. I don't think it would be surprising that someone who makes a living from making music would want to become expert in a DAW that will accommodate these changes, and that includes other people on this forum. Some of them will choose Studio One, some won't. So what? 
 
People are going to choose the program they like based on...surprise...what they like. I've advised people in this forum and elsewhere to download all the demos to find out which program suits them the best. I've also mentioned there are some programs that will have absolutely essential features for some people, and some programs that will lack absolutely essential features for some people, and to take those factors into consideration. I guess you missed all those kinds of comments, as well as the other ones concerning the strong points of Cubase, Mixcraft, Pro Tools, and various other DAWs. But believe whatever you want to believe. It makes no difference in the grand scheme of things and if it makes you happy, go for it.
 
2018/01/04 05:12:16
sharke
Anderton
Every now and then I pull out an old Windows program, and find that it not only still runs, but runs lightning fast compared to when I was running it on Windows 95. So sue me for thinking this could possibly happen with SONAR.
 



To be fair though, the processor you have now is many times faster than the one you were no doubt running Windows 95 on. That's gotta account for most of the speed increase. 
2018/01/04 05:18:15
Anderton
sharke
Anderton
Every now and then I pull out an old Windows program, and find that it not only still runs, but runs lightning fast compared to when I was running it on Windows 95. So sue me for thinking this could possibly happen with SONAR.
 



To be fair though, the processor you have now is many times faster than the one you were no doubt running Windows 95 on. That's gotta account for most of the speed increase. 




I guess I wasn't clear. The point was that the Windows 95 program not only still runs  under Windows 10 (I don't have any machines that run Windows 95!), but was a whole lot faster as opposed to being "broken" by running on the newer OS.
 
 
2018/01/04 05:24:58
CakeAlexSHere
Craig I already stated that it's likely to get better because windows will get better, and as Shark has rightfully said improved hardware has a lot to do with it.
 
I already told you the reason why Sonar would break is programming libraries it may access would no longer be supported by windows. Let's hope that does not happen for a long time or at all. Backing up and turning on delayed updates will help people I hope.
 
The only reason why your post is silly is because you want to turn this into an either/or scenario, when these two scenarios aren't even related. That's it.
 
Anyway let's hear some more about you..
2018/01/04 08:42:56
GLG
Your a troll mate. Go play in your sand pit!
2018/01/04 09:47:05
Anderton
CakeAlexSHere
The only reason why your post is silly is because you want to turn this into an either/or scenario



I had no idea that was what I wanted! Gee, thanks for telling me what I want, as well as what I think and what I meant. Your info should be helpful for those who can't think for themselves...or can't read.
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