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2013/11/17 03:00:00
Anderton
All kidding aside...I haven't done this myself, but wouldn't the easiest option be:
 
1. Locate SONARPDR.EXE
2. Right-click and choose "Restore to Previous Version."
 
When I right-clicked on the version that showed up, selected "Properties," and clicked the Details tab, the Product Version showed Sonar X3b.
2013/11/17 03:35:40
mudgel
That's excellent! How did you work that out? Is that documented somewhere or some insider information? I know in x1, some of the hot fixes could be reversed by copying back the backed up sonar*.exe
2013/11/17 03:56:59
Anderton
mudgel
That's excellent! How did you work that out? Is that documented somewhere or some insider information? I know in x1, some of the hot fixes could be reversed by copying back the backed up sonar*.exe


It's a Windows thing, but it appears Cakewalk is more conscientious about implementing it.
2013/11/17 06:18:23
gswitz
Craig,
 
Watch out for that change. You will only revert the .exe you clicked on. This means that if other files were updated, you don't get the updates for those other files as well.
 
Spelled out...
If you revert SONARPDR.EXE, and the X3c update modified any VSTs, the VSTs will NOT be rolled back. only the one EXE you clicked on. It may work as a quick test to see if a re-install might solve your problem, but I don't think it is guaranteed to be as robust as a reinstall.
 
I believe the name of the 'Windows Thing' is Shadow Copy... read more here...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_Copy
 
Mbogue
Nice... :)



@Mbogue, thanks for being able to laugh with us. ;-)
2013/11/17 08:09:20
robert_e_bone
Mbogue
CakeAlexS
Hi Marcus
 
So a few basic points....
 
So as Craig says you've RESET and then rescanned the plugins?
You have disabled the 64 bit audio engine in Sonar?
 
Also
 
You've run Windows update
You are on the latest audio drivers and firmware?
You are on the latest drivers and firmware for your outboard gear?
You have patched to the latest versions of the plugins?
You've looked at your latency config set within Sonar and your sound interface.
When was the last time you look at latency with latency monitor?
 
I appreciate it might have been fine before you installed the update but please let us know when you've gone through all these... :).
Sorry still not telling you how to roll back ;)

Thanks
 
Alex




Alex,
 
 Yes all drivers, firmware. WinOS and efx/plugins are up to date and latency monitor have been viewed...  
 
Also i have disabled 64 bit audio engine (although one main reason for using Sonar x3/x2/x1 is the 64bit audio engine and the ability to run 64bit plugins without truncation...)
 
I even rebooted with f8 in safe mode.. jk :p  


The audio engine itself is still 64-bit, and that is a different thing than the double-precision floating-point processing.  I also believe from comments posted in various other threads that the Cakewalk developers were suggesting only temporarily turning off the 64-bit double-precision processing for those having certain issues, while they look into whether or not they have some internal tweaking to do to it.
 
There are also countless threads out there endlessly debating the ability to even hear the minute differences using 64-bit double-precision processing offers, so I think at best there would be only occasionally audible differences, and even there it would only be for extremely large projects, where the super tiny differences would potentially add up to something even audible to humans.
 
So hang in there, there are lots of really good features to work with in any case, and they are looking into what is going on with that functionality.
 
Bob Bone
 
2013/11/17 10:48:46
Zo
Anderton
All kidding aside...I haven't done this myself, but wouldn't the easiest option be:
 
1. Locate SONARPDR.EXE
2. Right-click and choose "Restore to Previous Version."
 
When I right-clicked on the version that showed up, selected "Properties," and clicked the Details tab, the Product Version showed Sonar X3b.




Craig : this should be in the first part of the froum , you know with the threads like "how to contact cake" ect ....
 
I totally forgot abbout that !! i used to do it with drivers (specially Nvidia's !)....but i forgot about apps !!
 
 
2013/11/17 12:09:28
Lynn
gswitz
Mbogue
Ah the difference between a silver and platinum member is that platinum member are actually helpful...

 
... and the difference between everyone on this thread and you is that all of us have the software working.
 
edit: sorry, too snippy? it's late.


Au contraire!  I rolled back to X3b by using system restore because I was having problems with the Console Emulator buzzing, and I'm not satisfied with the solution of turning off the 64 bit double precision engine.  Since then, I'm  seeing many more problems with the X3c patch being reported, so I'm of the conclusion that CW didn't get this one right.  I AM happy with X3b, and it's working well on my system.  I can wait for CW to fix this before updating, and I'm confident they will eventually get this right.
2013/11/17 14:53:24
gswitz
Lynn
 
Au contraire!  



Not my best moment, Lynn. Sorry to all.
2013/11/17 14:57:30
Splat
I found it hilarious, no offense was taken and I was just jesting.
2013/11/17 15:01:05
lawp
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