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  • [Answered] I thought the Nomad plugins were untethered? (p.4)
2013/11/12 09:44:12
dubdisciple
I made a pledge to myself that any project that I have that dates back to the last 32-bit version of Sonar I used is probably best left unopened at this point.  If I have not finished it in 5 years, it's not gonna happen.
2013/11/12 12:49:32
Dave Modisette
dubdisciple
I made a pledge to myself that any project that I have that dates back to the last 32-bit version of Sonar I used is probably best left unopened at this point.  If I have not finished it in 5 years, it's not gonna happen.


Wisdom.
2013/11/12 13:24:34
dmbaer
Mod Bod
Exactly.  Me, I had no idea what the Nomad plugins cost.  Heck, EZdrummer cost me $150.00 when I bought it when it first came out.  Now you can find it for $30 - 50 bucks at times.  I figured Cakewalk got a heck of a discount.  And yes, I'd love to use them in Studio One as well.  Or at least be able to use it in X2.



Nomad Stuff has the occassional sale with great discounts.  A while back, they had what has to be the deal of the century, in which you could buy the entire Nomad catalog for $100 (you had to previously have purchased one Nomad product to qualify).  That one may never come around again, but there are some good bundle prices to be had for one who is patient.
 
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2013/11/12 23:52:33
Fog
Anderton=I've also noticed that several Cakewalk plug-ins work in other programs.



would that be things like rxp and dropzone which both royally muck up the window size when called in to cubase for example?
 
yes they may not be host specific.. but sod all use if the GUI window isn't show.. and is just a thin line..
 
It annoys me that *NATIVE* plugins (not 3rd party ones) that I pay for are locked or don't work as should.. and that goes across the board regardless of DAW maker... don't tout it as a full version if it's crippled in *ANY* way (that includes host checking).. put it as Nomad - sonar version etc..
 
much like when certain folks at various DAW companies do videos / marketing and conveniently forget to mention that a product is either SE and LE.. or mention it very fast or at a low volume that the full one isn't included in the "wonder bundle of xy and z"
 
I hate how some of cakes browsers are none standard .. e.g. for use with kore2 made them impossible to use.
 
2013/11/13 01:39:07
mudgel
Have you ever thought that it may be part of the reason that Cakewalk can give it to us for no cost.
Perhaps it has to be restricted to Sonar by the programs owner as a licensing condition. You get to run the full version within Sona,r but if you like it that much that you want to use it in all your daws, buy it or approach the maker about some consideration if you buy it. Just thinking out aloud
2013/11/13 10:57:35
dubdisciple
I think crippled is too strong of a word and Sonar Edition is likelt to cause confusion since it gives the impression that the plugins are somehow different. When I seee sonar edition I think of a product that has reduced or different features and not merely an identical program locked to Sonar.
2013/11/13 14:07:14
Fog
mudgel
Have you ever thought that it may be part of the reason that Cakewalk can give it to us for no cost.



nothing is free.. it's a factored % of the final cost,  discounted due to bulk volume licensing deals that them and others do. much like  cakewalk loops wise .. I get them elsewhere as part of other things and they aren't exclusive solely to them. AAS session stuff, I got "free" (not really) with a korg controller I bought.
 
they aren't 100% identical source code (they have a host check) as the full shop bought version of the plugins.. so yep I do think it's fair to mention it for transparency. being economical with details (again a few DAW companies do that) I find is a bit naughty.. as you can't state it's the full version..as it's not 100% identical or unlocked, then I shouldn't have to 2nd guess them.
2013/11/13 15:35:06
dubdisciple
Fog, if every company added lines to marketing material to downplay product it would look pretty silly.  That's not being transparent. No diet product lists "our sweetener is a potential carcinogen" as a feature although the information is available in the tiny print if you look hard enough. In a Utopian society perhaps every product would list cons as loudly as pros but I just don't see that happening and can't fault a company for refusing to do so. I'm guessing it was Nomad's choice to lock it.They did not subtract anything from the product.  Technically they added a line or two of code to lock to Sonar.  Not sure what Nomad gets out of doing that although I can speculate with some companies. I heard that Izotope locks it's bundled software to host programs to prevent upgrade path without pain full price but who knows if that is true.
2013/11/13 16:05:01
Lanceindastudio
You will all be humbly grateful and bow before Cakewalk and their colleagues eventually, in celebration that they forced you to see the light, the true light, and use only X3 for your Nomad plugins, and eventually for everything, and realize that there is no other way and your music shall shine like diamonds and you will ascend into rainbow light bodies and travel the many dimensions with SONAR X3 in hand!
 
Muahahahahahahaaaa!!!
2013/11/13 16:32:10
dubdisciple
lol@lance
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