Craig, welcome to the world of being Cake staff on this forum.  Almost every response you give will be followed by a loaded question unless you magically tell them exactly what the person wants to hear.

I've being using Cakewalk and upgrading all since Cakewalk 7. I don't much about any other DAW that well. I do have Pro Tools 11. I purchased that very cheap, as work at a college. I don't use it, I just have it. X3b is fab. Will wait until the C thing is sorted out. Over the years Cakewalk has supplied amazing plugins. I'm still using Tassman 4

CakeAlexS

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[This thread] - a picture is worth a thousand words....

dubdisciple
Craig, welcome to the world of being Cake staff on this forum.  Almost every response you give will be followed by a loaded question unless you magically tell them exactly what the person wants to hear.

And of course that post will be followed by an attempt to invalidate posts of other's that one doesn't like for some reason.  That is apparently  much more fun than exchanging ideas. 

nobody tried to invalidate your post.  You asked a loaded question which he already answered.  I would counter that continually rephrasing the same question in sarcastic ways does much more to harm the exchange of ideas than merely pointing out that he already gave you an answer you simply did not like.  we get it.  you are upset that Cakewalk is not doing more to improve notation.  It would be nice.  Lots of features would be nice, but people like you resort to borderline harassment when you don't hear what you want.

vintagevibe

Anderton

vintagevibe
Craig, what's your take on why Avid, MOTU, Steinberg and Presonus have spent resources on notation?

Avid and MOTU: Both are heavy into Hollywood-type scoring, where notation remains prevalent. MOTU in particular has made that their niche on the Mac (I presume introducing a Windows version was an attempt to re-create that success on a different platform).
 
Steinberg: Division of Yamaha, which is heavy into education and school programs. Notation remains important for the education market.
 
PreSonus: This is speculation, but I presume they were unlikely to devote resources into adding notation to Studio One, so they bought Notion. This provides a workaround for now, and who knows, could possibly be integrated into SOP in the future. As to why, PreSonus has been putting a major push on education in the past couple months.

Has Sonar's market share always been so big that it doesn't need the scoring and education markets?

We have ideas for making SONAR more attractive in education markets. We also discuss notation but it's a tricky subject. Either way, these conversations and ideas fall under NDA. Much like our competitors wouldn't share their future product road maps and strategies, we won't either. We are well aware of the market share, opportunities, ROI, etc. Hope that works for you.

I would hope that the Staff View gets an upgrade soon. I think it will add a lot more to the value of the X series. 

John
I would hope that the Staff View gets an upgrade soon. I think it will add a lot more to the value of the X series. 

I understand. We know this has been requested but there's a lot more involved. We'll discuss it of course.

dubdisciple
nobody tried to invalidate your post.  You asked a loaded question which he already answered.  I would counter that continually rephrasing the same question in sarcastic ways does much more to harm the exchange of ideas than merely pointing out that he already gave you an answer you simply did not like.  we get it.  you are upset that Cakewalk is not doing more to improve notation.  It would be nice.  Lots of features would be nice, but people like you resort to borderline harassment when you don't hear what you want.

No sarcasm was intended or implied.  I wanted to know why for 20 years Cakewalk has ignored something that other companies have worked on.  You don't like my question to Craig so you accuse me of harassment and attack me.  Then you insult me with the "people like you" remark.  This happens a lot on this forum instead of actual discussion.  Complaints are not allowed here without being attacked.  It's unprofessional and quite sad.