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Anderton
4. Sun collapses into a dwarf star. All life on earth ends. Forums become irrelevant.

Wow.  My next post could be the end of human kind.  That's a lot of pressure! 

vintagevibe

Anderton
4. Sun collapses into a dwarf star. All life on earth ends. Forums become irrelevant.

Wow.  My next post could be the end of human kind.  That's a lot of pressure! 

Better choose your words wisely.
 
At least someone saw my (supposedly clever) post before the thread turned over a new page

vintagevibe

mudgel
Noel's already explained that the way ARA works is not useful in something like notation either in entering MIDI data via notation or exporting a score via notation. ARA has a look ahead function for existing AUDIO data and that's how it works.

This is my layman's understanding of what Noël said.

As for anyone that wants to enter MIDI data through Sonars notation I'd recommend they get some tips from jsg here on the forum. He seems to have no problem do complex orchestrationsing it.

If a notaion company would implement Re-Wire so that it sent multitrack MIDI data to the host you could notate to VST set up in the host but nobody does that.

That would sure be a great idea.
As it is now I always have to decide where notation cuts into a project if the all.
Sometimes it's the best way for me to enter MIDI data so I start using Sonar staff view.
Other times a finished score is an important element so I start the project in Notion 4 then bring the MIDI across to Sonar. Can get a little convoluted at times.
At times I use another daw for its particular work flow so it's never as straight forward as I'd like.
The only time things are pretty routine is for recording audio

thomasabarnes

mudgel
Noel's already explained that the way ARA works is not useful in something like notation either in entering MIDI data via notation or exporting a score via notation. ARA has a look ahead function for existing AUDIO data and that's how it works. At least that's my layman's understanding of what Noël said.

Hi Mudgel: In case you were replying to one of my posts: You may be misunderstanding me. What I'm saying is it would be great if Cakewalk could innovate some implementation embedded in SONAR whereby using the professional notation software ( such as Finale and Sibelius) in SONAR would be integrated as good as Cakewalk integrated ARA in SONAR to use the Celemony Melodyne software. And if Cakewalk could innovate such an implementation it would perhaps be easier to do that than to make a revision to the Staff View in an attempt to appease the years of user requests to update SONAR to have better and more professional notation features. This may be something that is super hard to do, but I'm just entertaining the thought. And, I still would like to see the Cakewalk MP3 Encoder updated to include an option for Average Bit Rate encoding, and if Cakewalk does that, they may as well, update to the most recent version of LAME version 3.99.5.

My post was a reference back to Craig post where he mentioned ARA. I was simply correcting people's understanding of how it could be used as Noel corrected me on the very same line of the king with notation.

My further comments were in connection to a strong debate between a couple of very passionate Sonar users on the notation subject. I learned how thoroughly useful Sonar staff view can be in entering MIDI data. The member is jsg and he's extremely competent when it comes to the subject.
Hope that's clear. I mostly use my mobile for posting and often a quote doesn't come across as in the post where you thought I maybe referring to your comments.

BTW Thomas B,
As to the mp3 encoder. I think Cakewalk rename their lame . dll to ttslame. If you download and rename the latest lame dll to that and locate it in the correct folder then Sonar will use it.

lawp
while I agree that the bang for buck is great for a user who doesn't have many 3rd party plugs already, I think the bundled stuff distracts from the daw itself

 Ladies and gentlemen we have a winner. 

IMO all that really needs to happen is have a 3rd party notation app the sends multi channel MIDI.  That way you could setup and mix all your VST instruments in the host DAW and just use the notation app to notate.  If the 64bit Re-Wire implementation was solid it would be very similar to having a notation window in the DAW.  And you could either dump the MIDI into the host for mixdown or do a real time Re-Wired mix.  Currently no notation app does this although in mu understanding it is within the Re-Wire spec.

kitekrazy

lawp
while I agree that the bang for buck is great for a user who doesn't have many 3rd party plugs already, I think the bundled stuff distracts from the daw itself

 Ladies and gentlemen we have a winner. 

Please let me know what plugin you would like as your prize (actually scratch that all you need is a cassette recorder).

CakeAlexS

SimpleM
Thank you for the useful response Keni.  I'm afraid several of the fanboys got their panties in a bunch over the rant/lament part of my OP and could not see that I was asking the questions that a few of you have taken the time to answer.

You wrote a 200 word rant and embedded in the middle was a 6 word question. The title did not help either, and thanks for calling us fanboys ;).
 
I apologise for any offence.

 Unfortunately the fanboys often ruin this forum. I saw a guy flamed a few years ago because he didn't like the new GUI and was switching DAWs.  The only reason you don't see more of these rants is because they've moved on to competitors like Reaper and Cubase or they just got tired of this forum. Some of you treat Sonar like it's a religion. In other parts of reality you will see similar threads in other DAW forums.  See Live and Sony for examples. Flame suit not needed.