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  • X3: Why do the color-coded strips in TV have to look so......gray-ish? (p.2)
2013/11/08 11:24:49
icontakt
FuddyDuddy
I like it! 

 
Thanks. We're probably in the minority? But I must say, the rectified colors in the pic are a little bit too bright. 
2013/11/08 11:35:46
dubdisciple
I am not privy to the code under the hood, but I suspect that the methodology that color is achieved is why the colors are so subdued.  They basically hacked color into the track and bus views instead of doing a time consuming and potentially bug ridden coding of the TV from the ground up.  The original grey color scheme was likely created for processing efficiency to use as few images as possible.  I'm guessing color was achieved through some form of overlay system that does not involve extra images and thus not affecting performance.  A method like this is unlikely to produce heavily saturated colors because only so much opacity can be used.  I doubt this changes while the base X series code is the same.  It's not that the bakers are not capable.  It's just a lot harder to change something and still have kt work the same than to build it that way to being with.  It's low priority for me too.  I can see a difference between tracks and that is good enough for me.
2013/11/08 11:37:15
dubdisciple
I do notice in the marketing and blog material, the colors are definitely more saturated :)
2013/11/08 12:26:12
brconflict
dubdisciple
I am not privy to the code under the hood, but I suspect that the methodology that color is achieved is why the colors are so subdued.  They basically hacked color into the track and bus views instead of doing a time consuming and potentially bug ridden coding of the TV from the ground up.  The original grey color scheme was likely created for processing efficiency to use as few images as possible.  I'm guessing color was achieved through some form of overlay system that does not involve extra images and thus not affecting performance.  A method like this is unlikely to produce heavily saturated colors because only so much opacity can be used.  I doubt this changes while the base X series code is the same.  It's not that the bakers are not capable.  It's just a lot harder to change something and still have kt work the same than to build it that way to being with.  It's low priority for me too.  I can see a difference between tracks and that is good enough for me.


Surely it's easier than that. If all you need to do for HTML, for example, to change a color is simply change a 6-digit Hex code, I would imagine this is merely a change in a color code and then subtracting down to allow more gray in.
2013/11/08 12:46:16
ampfixer
If the built in custom colors don't work for you there's always Duckbar. It still does things that Sonar doesn't do. Panup is the man.
2013/11/08 12:54:41
dubdisciple
brconflictSurely it's easier than that. If all you need to do for HTML, for example, to change a color is simply change a 6-digit Hex code, I would imagine this is merely a change in a color code and then subtracting down to allow more gray in.

 
It would be that easy IF the interface was simply empty boxes or vector images. it is not.  It is composed of bitmapped images that would probably look even worse if you tried to simply apply color codes to them.  There is no code in HTML or any coding language I can think of that will easily change the color of bitmapped images.   Again, coding it from the ground up they could make it so that the areas they wished to color were composed of elements more receptive to color changes, but not as currently configured.
2013/11/08 13:07:09
Gary McCoy
 
Could Cakewalk please, in the next release, provide us with exactly the same colors that were on the console at Abbey Road in 1965?  I know I could make music like that if I just had the right colors.
2013/11/08 13:07:48
Grem
I don't know dub. I think this is why the new GUI "Skylight" was designed. So that changes could be made easily.

A CW rep said "We haven't shown our full hand." They may have a trick or two up their sleeve.

I'd say the time is ripe to voice ANY feature you may want. You never know who may be listening!!
2013/11/08 13:09:57
panup
My Sonar utility (Duckbar) can change any Skylight graphics hue, saturation and lightness.  I had no prior experience of image processing but I did this feature in a week.
It's definitely possible and talented Cakewalk programmers should be able to implement it much faster than I did it.
 
2013/11/08 13:28:27
dubdisciple
I concede I was guessing as to why. I just proposed one theory. 
 
panup, is that a commodore 64 sreen shot as your avatar?
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