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2015/08/05 20:30:40
emeraldsoul
Hello again - it's a solo piano composition, and there are a zillion choices for me to make as far as EQ goes. Will you help?
 
Tell me what you think this might need more of, less of, or hey it's kinda OK the way it is ??? 
 
As I'm finding out, there are a few different ways a piano can be represented by microphones. This one is close-mic'd primarily, so you can hear a fair bit o' the wood. 
 
http://www.songsbytom.com/    it's the first player on the left, the second song down, "Discovering You" 
 
thanks again, and cheers,
-Tom
2015/08/05 20:38:12
ohgrant
I'll have to get back to you on EQ...To distracted from the brilliant composition and performance.  
2015/08/06 03:49:27
synkrotron
I've listened to Discovering You, Tom, but I can't help in anyway at all I'm afraid.
 
So, this is you playing a real piano and recording it in your studio? A novel idea LOL...
 
What are you thinking? Brighten up the highs a bit? Or just tame the mids? I dunno dood... Sounds just fine on a second listen.
2015/08/06 04:44:48
Rikkie
Hi Tom, this is a very nice composition. Got to ask, is 1:24 to1:25 as you intended ?  As for the eq, it sounds fine to me but I'm missing a sense of space, it sounds to direct and dense imho.
 
Rik
2015/08/06 12:56:30
emeraldsoul
Synkrotron - thanks! this is a piano instrument for Kontakt, brand new to me (Pearl) and it has some really nice close mic'ing options, but . . .
 
Rik - yes I too notice the "denseness" particularly in the low mids. I like the intimacy of a close mic but I'm trying to be clean as well . . . kind of a tough one for me to balance correctly! I checked 1:24 to 1:25 and it's a really soft strike at that point, kind of a plunk, you can barely hear the notes there. I'll mess with it . . .
 
thanks,
-Tom
2015/08/06 15:32:56
Beagle
Tom, this is beautiful!  I'm moved by the performance!
 
the piano patch itself, however, I'm not the found of.  it sounds "dull" and muddy (yes, low mids are muddying it up!).  If I were going to have to work with this as if it were a recorded piano (instead of a patch that I could easily change to something else), I'd definitely scoop out some of the low mids and would give it a little more sparkle in the uppers (maybe a shelf with a fairly hi Q and some decent gain on it).
 
again, the performance is awesome!  lovely!  bravo!
 
...and on a side note - really cool website!  what are you using for your players and store?
2015/08/06 18:49:09
Starise
Tom you are quite a talented pianist. I had no idea you play so well! I also like your sense of humor in the "Tin Foil Hat"...you were kidding right:)
 
I thought Tin Foil Hat was a perfect piano tone for this kind of a song and your voice is well mik'ed too. The second song had a darker tone to my ears and could maybe use a slight nudge in the mids...very slight. It is also nicely done and if you hadn't pointed out that you want comments on the EQ I would likely have let it go...but it is slightly darker that the first track.
 
Nice web page too!! 
2015/08/06 19:07:16
ohgrant
Still pretty distracted by the composition and performance but starting to think it's a trick question. I hear no resonating frequencies a nice warm timbre, no instruments to compete with. Not sure why an EQ would be needed but I will check back to see results. In any case uncommonly good ear candy in my book.  
2015/08/06 23:46:44
emeraldsoul
Many thanks, very gratifying and I appreciate the comments!
 
Ohgrant is on to the "trick question" - although I did not state it was a real piano being played, in my opinion this Pearl (Impact Soundworks) piano, a sampled Yamaha C7 for Kontakt, is pretty amazing. It has four different mic selections, and the one I chose was a blend but primarily the close mic is dominating. I wanted opinions on how woody/wooly/muddy it was sounding, which I think is the disadvantage of a closer microphone (aka proximity effect).
All of your eq comments are helping me greatly, so thanks for the effort there!
 
Beagle I think hears the low mids problem I was having, so I'll give it another go there, thanks!
 
As for the "Tin Foil Hat" song, thanks Tim! That one is Ivory II American D, which is a sampled vintage Steinway - it's a little different animal, than the sampled Yamaha.  Thanks for appreciating the humor! I'm sure like many humorous things, it's not for everyone! And kudos to your site as well, I watched your interview with Mike Senior, he knows his stuff for sure!
 
As for the website, it's Bandzoogle.com and they are great except they don't have "volume controls" on their players. I guess you can't have everything! You Soundclouders are pretty smart, that's pretty easy. I'm just dipping my toe in the water over there.
 
thanks again,
-Tom
 
 
2015/08/07 04:12:56
synkrotron
emeraldsoul
Synkrotron - thanks! this is a piano instrument for Kontakt, brand new to me (Pearl) and it has some really nice close mic'ing options, but . . .



Ah! My stupid... When you talked about "mic'ing" I thought... Well... the wrong thing  
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