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  • Staff view in SONAR X1?
2011/04/16 11:57:39
normvork
I have been thinking about buying X1.  Does it still have the staff view like the old versions? It isn't mentioned on the advertising I have seen but it is the one thing about SONAR that nobody else has and I like it a lot more than the piano roll.
2011/04/16 12:00:57
garrigus
Yes, the Staff view is still there in X1. The workflow is a bit different though because X1 has changed the workflow in most of the views via the new global tools.

Scott

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2011/04/16 12:08:37
Sidroe
Be advised. There is a major flaw with the note selection on the floating Smart Tool as regards to the note duration not working right. But the Smart Tool in the Control works fine. This slows work flow down a good bit for me as I use the staff view quite a bit. They say this should be fixed in the next update. I sure hope so.
2011/04/16 12:16:03
Wookiee
Sidroe


Be advised. There is a major flaw with the note selection on the floating Smart Tool as regards to the note duration not working right. But the Smart Tool in the Control works fine. This slows work flow down a good bit for me as I use the staff view quite a bit. They say this should be fixed in the next update. I sure hope so.


This has been fixed in Quickfix build 245
2011/04/16 12:54:36
PSBoy
Changing the note-length by pushing the number keys (still) doesn't work. This was a major feature I liked to use ...
2011/04/19 13:14:21
musstaine
yes, i´m a bit disapointed too in this subject. To me one of the major features of sonar over other daws was the staff view flexibility. Where is the duration note bar??? do i really have to edit note by note inside of its preference option menu? that´s insane! .. same thing happens with the piano roll view... why can i edit with the same flexibility?? HUGE TURN DOWN on SONAR X1.. losing a fan here!!
2011/04/19 13:15:45
musstaine
yes, i´m a bit disapointed too in this subject. To me one of the major features of sonar over other daws was the staff view flexibility. Where is the duration note bar??? do i really have to edit note by note inside of its preference option menu? that´s insane! .. same thing happens with the piano roll view... why can i edit with the same flexibility?? HUGE TURN DOWN on SONAR X1.. losing a fan here!!
2011/04/19 13:43:57
fu2jobu2
I just upgraded from LE 6 to X1 Studio over the weekend. One thing I am finding frustrating is trying to copy and paste within staff view. It seems like I have to select another track, then go back to the original track and then click multiple times on where I want to paste before Ctrl+V will paste in the notes. If I need to paste multiple times I need to repeat the same steps. Maybe there is some easy setting I am missing to make Copy & Paste more user friendly?
2011/04/19 14:12:24
Sidroe
I don't know if this helps but if you go to Paste Special and set up how many times you want to paste, when you use the Paste command it retains what you set in the Special window. So you don't have to jump back and forth.
2011/04/24 09:32:40
Combo
Note entry in Staff View has slowed down because in X1 you can no longer enter notes with the mouse in one hand and change note duration using the number pad with the other.   

However, entering direct from the MIDI keyboard using step record (shift+R) has stayed the same BUT there is a bug (CWBRN 3863) which prevents entering series of more than three 8ths or shorter notes.  That's not fixed yet but CW have suggested a workaround of going Edit/Preferences/Display and disabling 'show all times as SMTPE'.  This seems to do the trick for now.
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