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2011/04/24 10:14:12
kelsoz
The duration issues are new to X1.

But the staff view still, after decades, can't handle triplets correctly.  If three different notes are in a triplet, all is ok.  If there are two consecutive notes of the same value notes or a triplet rest, it treats them like dotted eight followed by a thirty-second.

Just a gripe.
2011/04/24 12:01:36
garrigus
Combo

Note entry in Staff View has slowed down because in X1 you can no longer enter notes with the mouse in one hand and change note duration using the number pad with the other.   
Haven't tried it, but you should be able to change the key bindings to do this. They are only set to Screensets by default, but X1 lets you set up pretty much whatever key bindings you want to use.

Scott

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2011/04/24 14:41:15
Combo
garrigus


Combo

Note entry in Staff View has slowed down because in X1 you can no longer enter notes with the mouse in one hand and change note duration using the number pad with the other.   
Haven't tried it, but you should be able to change the key bindings to do this. They are only set to Screensets by default, but X1 lets you set up pretty much whatever key bindings you want to use.

Scott

Thanks.   I tried changing the key bindings a while back .  I can't remember exactly why but it didn't work out - I think it meant, if I revertef to the 8.5 bindings, that I couldn't have the new bindings for Nudge or something.  Or it may have meant 'double-keying' (e.g. Shift + something) which is slow.     For me, Step Record in Staff View (albeit with the workaround for the bug) kinda solves most of the problem anyway (tho still not as good as 8.5).
 
2013/11/07 01:42:40
Speziax
Staff view SUCKS and always has - what you guys are looking for is Heroin (Finale) and you're only getting Vicodin (Sonar staff); I don't understand why they haven't integrated even CLOSE to the model that Allegro has set.  If you're going to employ a Staff, create it so at least a competent musician can COMPOSE in that, and exclusively so.  As a composer, I find myself using the Piano roll more often than the stave!  How is that more precise?  And here I was thinking about upgrading..
2013/11/07 02:37:58
mudgel
You realise this is a 2 and a half year old thread?-;)
2013/11/07 05:27:58
chuckebaby
mudgel
You realise this is a 2 and a half year old thread?-;)

lol 
2013/11/07 09:49:34
konradh
I do almost all of my composing and arranging in Staff View and have since Cakewalk/Sonar had such a thing.
 
I am aware of quirks and bugs, but I have no major trouble in X1.  I jumped from 2.2 to X1 (!) and I don't recall a painful transition.
 
I do not use the Smart tool.  I use the pen most of the time, with the razor/eraser or arrow tools as needed.
 
Although it seems odd, I find it quicker to enter a note with a pen, and if it is not the right duration, right click and change it.  Then, I use the pen to drag copy it whenever I need another note of that duration.  Once you have a quarter, and eighth, and a sixteenth on the screen, it is quick to drag copy whatever you need.  I know that is not ideal, but it works for me.
 
I did open a ticket with Cakewalk one time to tell them that the note duration selection thing didn't work right.  They were very polite but said they thought it worked and asked for a video.  I never followed up because it didn't bother me that much.
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