• SONAR
  • [Solved] Groove clip extends clip by several measures and slows time - X3c
2013/11/06 14:31:43
Guitarmech111
I have a bass clip I recorded that is 12 measures long. I am able to play it and it sounds fine for what I want to do with it. I am trying to put together a new song and want to groove clip this for several iterations in a row. When I go to groove clip this clip, the clip gets extended for several meaures longer than what the original is and the timing is slowed as well. I did not do any timing changes or anything. Why in the world does this happen??
 
I was happy earlier, but now I am back to irritated again with SONAR... I hope this is something simple. any suggestions?
2013/11/06 14:50:11
stevec
You definitely dragged a groove clip out and didn't Ctrl+stretch a normal wave file?
 
2013/11/06 14:56:04
Guitarmech111
Thanks for the reply Steve, didn't drag anything. I bounced the clip to a single clip removing any extraneous audio so that it fit inside the desired measures.

I right clicked the bounced clip and enabled groove clipping. The clip then extended several measures and slowed down to match the measures it was stretched to. On top of that, the process made the clip sound horrible. Stretching needs to be enhanced somewhat...
 
36 minutes to wait on hold for TS and no 800 number??!!
2013/11/06 15:01:00
stevec
Ah.... gotcha.  
 
You mentioned using the bass part in a new song - was the clip brought into a new project?   If so, same sample rate and project tempo as the original?   Does the clip drag out in normal Groove Clip fashion?    How about Clip Properties - anything odd there?
 
2013/11/06 15:01:34
brundlefly
I don't know why this happens sometimes. Go into the Groove Clip section of Clip Properties in the Inspector and change the Beats in Clip to 48 (assuming 4 beats/measure) , and then roll it back to 12 measures (or out to however many you want).
2013/11/06 15:04:50
Guitarmech111
I recorded the bass directly to the project. This is the only audio.
 
I think this has something to do with the audiosnap remnants. Before I recorded this clip, I messed around with audiosnap on another bass take. I didn't like it so I deleted the whole clip and recorded this new one. I am wondering if there are audiosnap artifacts hanging around that is causing me grief. I looked at the average tempo in the AS pallete and it says 133 for the clip. I have the project at 85bpm. I have no clue why it thinks the clip is 133??!!??
 
We need a NUKE AUDIOSNAP ARTIFACTS button maybe?
2013/11/06 15:08:11
Guitarmech111
still the wait time is 36 mins after 10 mins on hold..
2013/11/06 15:19:08
Guitarmech111
I just tried this in a brand new project. I added my drums, inserted a new audio track. Changed the project tempo to 85 with SPP at position 0.

I then set the new audio track to record. After recording the bass track, I scissored the ends of the clip to where I wanted it. I then anabled groove clipping. I got the audio at ends of clip will be discarded message. I hit ok and the groove clip STILL sends the clip into a longer than original audio clip. This is really starting to irritate me... There has got to be a setting or something causing this. This usually works without issue in X1. X2 and 8.5.
2013/11/06 15:38:31
brundlefly
Did you miss my post #5? I think that'll fix it.
2013/11/06 15:55:20
Guitarmech111
changing to 48 got me real close, but it is still out of sync. I did miss it  :) thx for the ping!
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