My first post...

Doktor Avalanche
The short answer is it's not quite ready yet. Until the drivers are ready everything writen above can be regarded as pure speculation.

This is not an attack this is a fact. Saying that official drivers might not be released because they are under testing, and that Roland cannot be bothered to make these drivers is speculative at best and plain wrong at worst.

Doktor Avalanche
Again the driver has not been released, you are probably using the MS driver. I've never found a use with the other software, esp when using Sonar.

This is a clarification of what I said supplying additonal info. I was stating the additional software may not be necessary. This is apparently another attack and undermining. I also clarified in detail later on.

You then stated I was arrogant, ignorent and silly and you keep saying read the thread without telling me exactly what your issue is.

I have already read the thread twice I have no idea what you are talking about and nor are you prepared to say what it is.

Goodnight.

Rob James G
You started on the attack, your first post in this thread was attack.

Relax Rob... That was not thought to be an attack. Simply ignore his statements, its his usual style (which you can understand reading his other posts).

Hi Guys. We are all friends here. We are here to help each other out. Peace.

azslow3

Rob James G
You started on the attack, your first post in this thread was attack.

Relax Rob... That was not thought to be an attack. Simply ignore his statements, its his usual style (which you can understand reading his other posts).

 
Azslow, Musichoo,
Cheers guys.
I tried with him, as you can see. I'm perfectly relaxed.
He obviously means well even, despite his approach.
 
It's good that solutions are coming through.

If I called you arrogant, ignorent and silly I apologise. I still do not know why you did it though and I still have no idea why you took issue. If I have an issue I'm generally straight out with it rather than than evasive but I guess that is just my style. I can't see how on earth what I've posted here can be interpreted as an attack yet it seems calling somebody silly, arrogant and ignorent is perfectly acceptable.

Fair enough..

Doktor,
Once again, and probably wasted effort......
You took issue without properly reading the thread. It was very clear in the text that we were discussing how the existing Roland drivers weren't working in Win 10, it was very clear that we are all watching the compatibility updates page for news on proper Win 10 Roland driver, and in the meantime we had to try the "standard mode" Windows driver.
 Musichoo and Azlow and I discussed the option of turning off the A-800's regular operational mode. Musichoo described his experience with this, I followed up with my experience with this.
You waded in and through ignorance of the details of the discussion making assumptions that without their proper context implied the wrong driver/mode had been chosen.
 
Your 1st comment in the thread was dismissive, in your second comment you expressed irritation (obviously proving irrefutably that you had not read the thread properly); " Again the driver has not been released, you are probably using the MS driver"
Continuing in that way is counter productive. Hence my comments. They weren't really insults, they were observations. 
 My comment after this second dismissive remark: "You really shouldn't reply without reading posts in the thread properly first. This is an unfortunate mix of ignorance and arrogance.
 You'll make yourself look rather silly"
 
At which point most people would have read the above posts and worked out where they had gone wrong but no.
I believe you almost certainly know your mistake and are trying to obfuscate the details and to act wounded.
 

Rob James G

You waded in and through ignorance of the details of the discussion making assumptions that without their proper context implied the wrong driver/mode had been chosen.

Once again you call me ignorant. Thankyou so much. I still haven't used any of these terms upon you.

 

Rob James G
Your 1st comment in the thread was dismissive

No I said it was speculative. Saying that Roland probably won't be releasing drivers because they are under testing is a weird thing to say. You will observe I did not call you ignorant and stupid,a word you seem to use with ease.


 

Rob James G
in your second comment you expressed irritation (obviously proving irrefutably that you had not read the thread properly); " Again the driver has not been released, you are probably using the MS driver"
Continuing in that way is counter productive.

It appears you are not actually aware that MS provides a driver that will work with the keyboard and not with Act, since Windows 7 I believe. In your previous quote you seem to think the additional software is essential and I'm saying it may not be because it is bundled in Sonar. Again I'm not using the word ignorant here as that would be extremely rude wouldn't it?

 

Rob James G
Hence my comments. They weren't really insults, they were observations. 

Oh I'm sorry I stand corrected, I should take it as a compliment to be called silly, arrogant and stupid. Silly me.

 

Rob James G
 My comment after this second dismissive remark: "You really shouldn't reply without reading posts in the thread properly first. This is an unfortunate mix of ignorance and arrogance.
You'll make yourself look rather silly"

 
The way you have just written this it could easily be interpretted that I wrote it. Let's be clear here this is your sort of language and your exact quote.

 

Rob James G
At which point most people would have read the above posts and worked out where they had gone wrong but no.

I will ask you one more time. What exactly is the issue? Where have I gone wrong. Is this another way of saying read the thread again. What exactly is factually incorrect or out of context with what I have written.

 

Rob James G
I believe you almost certainly know your mistake and are trying to obfuscate the details and to act wounded. 

What mistake you still have not showed me. Please post a quote and tell me what is the mistake I have made? I asked you that ages ago and you keep saying read the thread.

I'm not wounded, I've just been called silly, arrogant and ignorant. You've just called me ignorant again. Thanks a lot.

Your keep implying that I'm unable to read the thread as well, I've already told you I've read the thread twice and I still have no clue what you are on about. At this point I assume you want to just want save face or something.. Regardless you are extremely rude.

Rob James G
 
Hi,
A Pro 800 (current product) currently does not work in Win10. Allegedly drivers are "under testing"
I'm hoping this is a very poorly worded suggestion that the drivers are being worked on. However the latest legend on their website suggests otherwise.
Roland driver advice seems to imply that they cannot be bothered to make their devices compatible.
Roland appear to have stuck two fingers up at their customers, and I hope they lose most of them if this attitude continues:
Note the legends, no suggestion of drivers in development
Google this:  Roland support news 250024
 
Quote:
"Legend
Yes: Compatible Compatible with Windows(R) 10 64-bit Edition / 32-bit Edition
 
Limited: Limited compatibility Compatible with Windows(R) 10 64-bit Edition / 32-bit Edition with limited operation
 
No: No plan for compatible version
We are sorry but we have no plan to make it compatible with Windows(R) 10 64-bit Edition / 32-bit Edition"
 

Rob James G

 

Current state of play:

MIDI Keyboard Controller

Model name Hardware & Driver Exclusive Software Remarks A-300PRO A-500PRO A-800PRO Under testing No Exclusive Software:            

• A-PRO Editor : Sorry but it is out of support.
• A-PRO Control Surface Plug-in for SONAR : Sorry but it is out of support.

I'll give a little more information.

I own a A300 Pro. I'm fully aware of the software it is supplied with and how it works I'm sorry you don't think I do but whatever.

1) The additional software which you were going on about not being supported by Roland in Windows 10 I believe is in order to support Sonar versions prior to X1. Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong here.

2) Microsoft supplies a driver. Act will not work though without the Roland driver.

3) 'Testing' generally is the last stage before a software release. This suggests drivers are in development.

4) You may go on about the context of the thread but this was the exact quote I was responding to, as you know because I pasted the quote. I don't blame you though for wanting to distance yourself away from it.

5) I haven't seen a picture or a quote stating Roland have stuck two fingers up their customers yet.

I guess you will interpret this as another attack. If so many apologies in advance.

I've not repeated any insults, I merely cut 'n' paste the old comments.
 
I had not tried to distance myself from any comments, quite the reverse, as anyone will be able to see.
Your continued barrage will just put people off the thread though, which could be a shame as there is useful info here.
 
I haven't implied anything about your knowledge of these products, anywhere in the thread, how could I, I don't know you!
 
The comments about Roland are obviously metaphorical. No company would literally do that or indeed intend that.
However I have seen plenty of forum threads with understandably disgruntled customers left with unsupported devices and abandoned Roland software. I feel for those people. Windows has always been about backwards compatibility. At least the people with older Roland keyboards can switch advanced mode off and use a standard Windows driver. 
I like the Roland hardware, because of this I express disappointment with their poor driver support.
It is poor, Windows 10 preview has been available for months with millions of users. 
People have been able to hack some of these drivers to make them work in the last week, they have done this in a matter of days.
We all know there is no technical reason why Win10 should not support these other older devices. Roland have clearly decided it is not in their economical interest to support devices over a certain age. This will backfire IMHO, I do not think people will go out and buy the new version from Roland. They will buy from another company; once bitten..........
 
 
 
 
 

That's your opinion, I disagree with it as Roland has not finished rolling out drivers, but that does not make your opinion invalid. I simply stated what you were writing was speculative and now you say it was metaphorical so it seems you more or less agree. If I was to take an offense or be on the attack I would have written something on the lines you did but I didn't.

It looks like we are never going to get to the bottom of my apparent ignorance here and why you used such strong words, believe me I'm all up for self improvement. I think I've demonstrated enough of what I see you may have overlooked.

Nevermind I think we both better stop typing there are better things to do with our lives.