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  • Melodyne has no Toolbox (ie Loads but is Greyed Out)
2013/10/08 21:43:49
pharohoknaughty
I have X3 with the X3B update.
 
My copy of Melodyne has no toolbox on display. (the area you use to choose what you want to do).
 
I have right and left clicked everything possible. Without a toolbox all you can do is view the blobs but not edit them.
 
I have tried to use their help but they really do not have a conventional help system, just a bunch of promotional oriented videos and a so called product manual that yields nothing.
 
Does anyone have any help for me on how to solve this?
 
Thanks
 
Note I edited the name of this thread to be more informative about the nature of the problem. At one point I got Melodyne to function and I saw how it is supposed to be. The condition when it is not working correctly is that the blobs are showing properly but all controls are greyed out. The Edit, Algorithm, and View menus will pull down but are all greyed out. Also the "toolbox" and the "correct pitch" and "quantize time" objects are missing.
 
As of 22 of October the greyed out condition has returned, but now this morning, the 23rd, it came back to life and is functioning properly again.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
2013/10/08 21:49:31
mettelus
Do you have a screen shot available for what you are seeing? It almost sounds like a real estate issue, but not sure.
 
If you run melodyne stand alone, does it appear as expected?
 
Michael
 
 
2013/10/08 22:21:44
pharohoknaughty
Strange, I went to figure out how to do a screen shot, and now it has the toolbox and the little box that says correct pitch and quantize time. Also I can now use the menus for scale, and melodic/percussion, etc.
 
I hope its not an intermittent problem.I signed off and on a few times and its all cool now, works as intended.
 
I think what happened is Celemony gave me window with an "opportunity" to upgrade, but I didn't handle it correctly. There was some kind of window telling me I have a valid licence, but that I could upgrade. I imagine that by not closing the window correctly Melodyne went to sleep.
 
It is pretty evident that Celemony is expecting a huge increase in business from upgrades from X2 users.
 
Anyway, thanks for your input, really great of you to look into this.
 
 
2013/10/08 23:12:49
mettelus
Yes, that "pop-up" window can be a nuisance, but I *think* it has a checkbox to disable it. I agree with the revenue comment; but the Melodyne and Addictive Drums (combined) would cost more than the X3 upgrade, so I found them to be a nice deal. They are both very nice plug-ins that I never knew about.
 
I am glad it is working for you!
 
Michael
2013/10/09 06:09:21
Loptec
mettelus
Do you have a screen shot available for what you are seeing? It almost sounds like a real estate issue, but not sure.
 
If you run melodyne stand alone, does it appear as expected?
 
Michael
 
 



 +1
screen shot would be nice. 
2013/10/09 07:47:58
Sixfinger
Yesterday I chose Melodyne as a region effect over a section of a clip of which I was really track automation mode. I was seeing all kinds of eratic behaviour giving me a wtf moment.  I've not gone back to evaluted anything or try again, I just recocnized my error and moved on.
 
Call this a heads up.
2013/10/21 22:33:25
pharohoknaughty
 
 
OK
 
It happened again.
 
I got a popup from Celemony informing me my licence was good, and I could upgrade, or I could un-licence if I wanted to.
 
I clicked close, and then I got a greyed out version of Melodyne.
 
I tried to make a screenshot, but once again I am challenged. I hit the printscreen, then pasted into the editor for the forum. When I posted out came about 10 pages of HTML gibberish instead of the image.
 
Any help is appreciated.
 
BTW,  there is no button to tell Celemony not to ask again.
 
Thanks
 
 
2013/10/21 23:07:43
mettelus
I have been noticing issues with Melodyne if being run within SONAR (ARA mode) so have been running it stand-alone to learn the software. There have been a few issues popping up in various threads. I posted to a thread earlier today and threw in things I personally have seen using ARA mode that are repeatable (for me). http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/2916228
 
I must apologize to you about the screenshot, as I did *my* first yesterday and realized you cannot "simply attach" one!!! What an "OMG" moment that was. I posted a thread on it, and some folks chimed in with options to do it, but it is not as simple as it should be. http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/2915605
 
Michael
2013/10/21 23:37:01
cparmerlee
pharohoknaughty
Strange, I went to figure out how to do a screen shot, and now it has the toolbox and the little box that says correct pitch and quantize time. Also I can now use the menus for scale, and melodic/percussion, etc.
 



I had a similar problem last week.  I lost the buttons that allow you to do the mass pitch or time correction (the "macro" mode).
 
I got around that because I really only needed to adjust a couple of notes, so I did it manually.  But that was definitely wrong.  I haven't had a need for Melodyne in the past few days, so I haven't tried to pick up a pattern.
2013/10/22 20:20:34
pharohoknaughty
It could be that I don't have my latency set high enough.
 
Melodyne keeps giving me an error window that I need to have 1024 samples in the buffer. This happens each time I try to use it.
 
Tech support told me I could just ignore this message and things would probably be OK. (It was for a tech support call on another matter, so I didn't ask any more questions).
 
I have my buffer set at 176 (4 milliseconds) and everything has been stable, no issues.
 
The official Melodyne help page says you need a minimum of 512 but 1024 is best. There are other threads about Melodyne not working properly. I wonder if it comes back to latency settings.
 
So I opened the ASIO panel for my Roland FA-101. To change buffer size, it turns out you have to close all applications using the FA-101, and then turn the FA-101 off and on again.
 
Of course this is ludicrous.
 
1024 samples is too high to use for soft-synths. So you have to forgo all of your soft-synths in order to use Melodyne? Or does Celemony corporation actually belove you should change your buffer size each time you try to use their software?
 
Not to mention, hundreds of soft-synths can function in real time with very short latency settings, and Melodyne needs 23 milliseconds to do what it does after the fact. How can this be?
 
I tried Melodyne 10 years ago and thought it was too much trouble. And it looks like nothing has changed.
 
I hope I am wrong. When I get some time, I'll call tech support and see if I can get an answer. Then I will report back.
 
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